Ms. Feller, your predecessor Yvonne Gebauer from the FDP promised "the best education in the world" when she became Minister for Education in North Rhine-Westphalia in 2017, under the Social Democratic Prime Minister Hannelore Kraft the central project was called "Leave no child behind".

Nevertheless, NRW has now catastrophically cut off the IQB study.

Why do political aspirations and reality diverge so blatantly in NRW?

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Political correspondent in North Rhine-Westphalia.

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You noticed: I didn't put a saying in front of it.

My current task as Minister of Education is to analyze the current challenges in the school system in North Rhine-Westphalia and to quickly offer concrete solutions to the various problems.

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some media therefore believe that you have no vision.

Now is not the time for visions, nor is it the time for structural ideological debates.

I believe that the challenges we are facing at the moment are such that we need to focus our time and energy on how we can support our schools in the short and medium term.

After the Pisa shock 20 years ago, politicians traveled to Finland with large delegations - the IQB shock is now the reason for you to go to Hamburg to have your social democratic counterpart Ties Rabe (SPD) explain how the Hanseatic city managed to get out of the educational poverty?

The IQB study is an alarm signal.

We now have to take countermeasures with targeted and solution-oriented measures.

Everything is put to the test.

We are also taking a close look at the primary school master plan with the specialist offensives for mathematics and German, knowing full well that it has not yet had the full effect because it was only launched in 2021, i.e. exactly at the time when the IQB -Data was collected.

But I'll say it very clearly: Copying from Hamburg is expressly permitted.

It is excellent that the turnaround was achieved there.

We will exchange ideas intensively with Hamburg.

Twenty years ago, North Rhine-Westphalia was still in sixth place in a comparison of the federal states - it has now almost slipped to the two IQB tail lights Berlin and Bremen.

What went wrong?

We are now analyzing this with the scientists involved in the IQB study.

We will act quickly, but we must not take any hasty shots.

One thing is clear: We have a lot of catching up to do when it comes to children without a migration background, but even greater when it comes to schoolchildren with a migration background and from disadvantaged social backgrounds.

We will now openly and honestly analyze the reasons for this.

It can't just be due to migration: Hamburg is one of the countries with a particularly high proportion of children from migrant families, but has consistently focused on the essentials for many years: performance concentration, obligatory support offers, and above all there is a strict focus on the core competencies in the Reading, writing and arithmetic respected.

When will there finally be an agreement between the federal states on mandatory language proficiency surveys in kindergarten age, on uniform social indices everywhere, on consistent support for the weak?