"I stopped drinking alcohol since my burnout", justifies Victoire Tuaillon as she opts for a detox tea in the café in the 10th arrondissement of Paris where she made an appointment at

20 Minutes

.

A few days before the return of her podcast

Les Couilles sur la table

, the host and author who officiates for the Binge Audio studio says she is still "convalescent".

The six months away from social networks and her work allow the journalist who has just blown out her 33rd candle to say she is "proud to return to work" after a hectic period during which her emotions were put to the test.

After producing

Le Cœur sur la table

, a podcast on “what love is and what feminism does to our ways of loving” and publishing four books in the Sur la table collection at Binge Audio Editions, including two of which she is the author, she returns for a fifth season of her flagship program to continue to dissect masculinities.

A “magical” medium

The journalist that Victoire Tuaillon has become is the result of a career made of turning points and questioning.

Still a budding journalist, she struggles to find her way.

Trained at Science-Po Paris, she spent three years in the news teams of France 2. Formatted by television shackles, she dreams of something else and doubts her future in the profession.

She then flew to Andalusia where she joined a community and ecological farm.

Morning and evening, she sorts the grain and does the housework, podcasts in her ears.

"I said to myself 'if I too could spend my days understanding things and synthesizing them, passing them on', that would be great".

Young Victoire finds something different in her experience as a listener.

“There is something quite magical and curious about this medium,” she enthuses.

It does not mobilize a sense that puts at a distance like sight.

We can project a lot of things on the voice.

»

When she returned to France, then aged 25, she took a year to sweep away her doubts and tried journalism again.

She was then hired at

La Grande Librairie

on France 5, then hosted by François Busnel, "a dream job for a heavy reader".

But his dreams of independence are still there.

A year and a half later, she became a freelancer and offered a first subject to Arte Radio.

Her name appeared for the first time on a podcast application in April 2017. In

Et là, c'est le drame,

Victoire Tuaillon dissects for nine minutes the mechanisms that make all voices in the media identical.

"Questioning the origin of violence"

But it has always been two other subjects that tickle his curiosity: “Men and love”.

If the idea of ​​the podcast on masculinities comes to her quickly, she struggles to find a producer to accompany her in the project.

It was the success of his first podcast on Arte Radio that finally convinced Binge Audio to hire him.

Les Couilles sur la table

was born in 2018 from the journalist's desire to "question the origin and meaning of violence, as well as its links with masculinity".

For this, she reads, surrounds herself with experts and seizes seemingly banal subjects such as alcohol, music or the car and explores the reasons why patriarchy is a source of inequality in all these areas.

“I see my job as a transmission.

Les Couilles sur la table

is a format that makes it possible to transmit committed knowledge directly and free of charge,” she rejoices as she resumes her long interviews.

A diagnosis, yoga and reconstruction

If the fifth season of the podcast she created is imminent, Victoire Tuaillon has already left hours of podcasts to listen to, two books but also part of her mental health in her work.

These are several changes that appeared in his daily life that alert him in 2021. “My tobacco consumption increased, I slept less and less well, I could no longer read or write and I only thought about work all the time.

Gradually tightened, the vice of these symptoms is too pressing for the journalist, she decides to step back.

The diagnosis will follow, she suffers from burnout.

During her convalescence she also manages to put a word on another failure which she has suffered from since childhood, attention disorders.

“Having put a word on it helps me to heal, she analyzes.

I realize that my oddities like my impulsiveness or my lack of organization are the result of this disorder that is part of me.

It's not because I suck.

»

For more than six months, she rebuilt herself as best she could.

"I thought a lot about what I wanted to do," she says.

She is also graduating as a yoga teacher, a discipline she considers "in connection with [her] feminism".

“It's a practice in which competition, performance, appearance don't matter.

She now passes on her knowledge to her students every Sunday.

" I'm better "

With “efforts”, Victoire Tuaillon resumed work and boxed the episode of the return of the

balls on the table

.

“Now I am able to work.

I'm not completely cured but I'm better.

I again need to take time to do research,” she says.

To preserve this, a new episode will be broadcast every three weeks, compared to every fortnight in previous seasons.

Of course, she also gauged the interest of her “listeners”, as she calls them in the introduction and conclusion of each of her interviews.

Because his podcast is first and foremost the story of a success that has attracted up to 550,000 monthly listeners over the course of previous seasons.

If she is delighted to be listened to, audiences only interest her in a secondary way.

“My priority is to put myself at the service of the dissemination of beneficial ideas to combat patriarchy.

I think that in our society, we need facts, to understand how violence is made to better fight against it.

It is this tone that I intend to keep”, insists the journalist whose wish is to pursue “a form of popular education”.

“I am happy to circulate ideas and that it is useful to the listeners.

»

New projects to come

Because Victoire Tuaillon has seen inspiring reflections abound in recent years, both from researchers and in podcasts or books.

But his head is also full of new ideas to undertake.

“I've been writing whole pages since I was little with lots of ideas, projects.

My intellectual training is a journalist, but I don't forbid myself at all from doing something else”.

She claims to want at all costs to “save the attention” of those who read or listen to her.

“I only launch things if I tell myself that it's aligned between a need and a pleasure.

I always ask myself: “doesn’t that add noise to noise?”

She will soon launch “a Newsletter called

Vraiment super

where [she] will share weekly things to do, to read, to see.

Because according to the journalist, "we don't just need ideas and fights, we need art".

A way to promote as many witnesses of a “fascinating” era that she hopes to contribute to her “intellectual quest”.

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