Dr. Al-Nafisi attributes the reasons for the continuation of the Iranian Islamic experience to the Shah’s regime, which he says was hated in the region and globally, and he himself wrote in his memoirs that what brought him down was not the Iranian people, but rather the reports of the intelligence service (SAVAK), as they depicted the situation differently from what it is in reality. .

The Shah also deviated greatly in his internal policies, and instructed the SAVAK to do what he wanted.

The second reason for the continuation of the Islamic experience in Iran, from Al-Nafisi’s point of view, is due to the great role played by the Shiite authorities in Iran, and therefore the Shah used them to calm the situation, and sometimes he even borrowed money from them to finance some government projects, given that the references enjoy economic independence from the authority .

In addition to the fact that the idea of ​​velayat-e faqih has become the core of the power of the current Iranian regime, Shiism - a historical revolutionary movement - gave Iranians a political balance, and gained them great experience and expertise in maneuvering, coexistence and polarization, according to the guest of an episode (9/14-2022) of the "Mawazine" program. .

And the Iranians did not only succeed in preserving and preserving their Islamic experience, but also in managing their differences with a superpower in the world, the United States of America, as they acted with it with extraordinary intelligence at that time, but Al-Nafisi says that the Americans and even the Europeans believed that this experiment could be a means in their hands. To strike the Arabs, they therefore began negotiations to transform Iran from a strategic enemy into a strategic friend of the West.

According to Al-Nafisi, the Americans are currently working on reforming the relationship with Iran, because it has become one of the means of defeating and blackmailing the Arabs in the Middle East, and confirms that all Western ambassadors in Sanaa say that the Houthis, as a militia, have the right to stay and control the Yemeni capital, and that they are an internal movement that has absolute freedom. Although the Houthis are attacking countries that are allies of the Americans.

Despite what he mentioned about the factors for the success of the Islamic experience in Iran, the Kuwaiti political thinker imagines that this experience has grown old and lost much of its momentum, with evidence that the Iranian interior has been in a state of congestion for a long time, and what keeps the change that has taken place in this country alive is disappointment. The periphery and the central state's satisfaction with the Iranian situation.

In the second part of the "Mawazine" program dedicated to non-Arab Islamic movements, it reveals an internal dialogue between the central countries regarding Iran, as they say that their sacrifice of it will turn the Sunnis against them, and therefore they are working to break the bones of Arabs in Iran, which is what is happening in Syria, Iraq and Yemen.

On the other hand, he regrets that the Arab Islamic movements did not study the Iranian experience in depth, nor did they benefit from its strengths, despite the fact that some individuals from the Muslim Brotherhood were able to establish contacts with the Iranian revolution since its beginnings.

Erdogan's calm and rationality

On the reasons for the success of the Islamic experience in Turkey, the guest of the “Mawazine” program links him to what he called the calm and rational speech of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, and therefore he succeeded in achieving what Necmettin Erbakan did not achieve, in addition to a psychological, emotional and intellectual change in the Turkish leadership over time.

He says that Erdogan and other Islamist leaders in the Justice and Development Party avoid an unequal confrontation, unlike the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, whose leaders say that al-Nafisi made a mistake in the timing of the confrontation with the military regime during the era of Gamal Abdel Nasser, and in inciting people to unequal confrontations, as happened in Rabaa Square, stressing that these leaders should be tried historically, at least because they pushed people to that fate.

One of the reasons for the success of the Turkish Islamic experience is also the Justice and Development Party’s adherence to the issue of internal dialogue, in addition to the fact that the Turkish administration under this party is the least corrupt in Turkey. He controls it, unlike Gamal Abdel Nasser, who used to charm and control the Egyptian masses.

As for the Islamic experience in Malaysia, the Kuwaiti thinker believes that Mahathir Muhammad relied on peace and peaceful development.