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Culture In conversation Ana Belén and the Javis: "We have gone from censorship by horrible lords to self-censorship"
Jordi
Évole
said
last
night
on
his
doing it all their lives: without fear, without self-censorship. And there are those who cannot stand it even if they fill their mouths with freedom." It is the almost perfect description of what was last night
about Évole
, about which so much was written last week just with the progress of the interview that it seemed difficult that
Ana Belén
could have said more than what had already been anticipated. But, yes,
Ana Belén
said more and not only got involved politically but also opened up a part of her that she has rarely let pass.
Jordi Évole
's ability
in
Lo de Évole
is that he becomes a kind of confessor, a therapist to whom the guest characters go and where they seem to find the place where they can drop their backpack or where they can raise their voices. We will only see
Ana
Belén
raising her voice on stage.
Ana Belén
's temperance
is the same whether she talks about communism, whether she attacks
Isabel Díaz Ayuso
, without naming her, whether she talks about her own
me too
, whether she describes the most "fucked up" years professionally and personally, or whether she speaks of his greatest and most comforting "fantasy".
The Goyas
Cinema.
In conversation Ana Belén and the Javis: "We have gone from censorship by horrible gentlemen to self-censorship"
Editor: LUIS MARTÍNEZ Madrid
In conversation Ana Belén and the Javis: "We have gone from censorship by horrible gentlemen to self-censorship"
He only loses that temperance, changes it for emotion and breaks when he remembers his parents. It was the only moment of the interview in which, taking a walk with
Jordi Évole
, the actress and singer broke down. "There is a moment when you become their parent and you find yourself scolding them. Asking them if they have drank water because they have to hydrate themselves because the doctor said so. And they lie to you... When they disappear it is... terrible ".
Ana Belén
turned around, stood with her back to the camera and waited for the moment to end. There was only that moment of weakness, of breaking, of losing the calm that she has always characterized her.
Because
Ana Belén
can talk to you about the worst of her life and she will continue to do so with the same restraint as always. And, perhaps, it is because of that way of demanding, denouncing and telling that every time
Ana Belén
speaks she raises the stakes. "How many interviews have you been able to do in your life?"
Jordi Évole
asked him at the beginning of the interview. "I don't know, but since I was 13, imagine,"
Ana Belén
responded . "We have calculated that 3,517,"
Évole
then told him . "How in so many interviews I can say something interesting," she replied.
Évole
confessed that he had made up the figure and Ana Belén's response was so
Ana Belén
: "Thank goodness you made it up.
You know the nonsense I could have said in 3,517 interviews!
"
The most "fucked up" thing about Ana Belén
Ana Belén
is not about celebrating successes, but she is about remembering failures. Her successes for her are finishing a four-hour performance and going to sing Camilo Sexto at karaoke.
Jordi Évole
remained silent. "That's a fantasy," he confessed. "I am very critical of myself. Over time I relax a little more, but I don't think there is anyone in this profession who says, 'ah, a bad review doesn't matter to me!' That moment of reading "That criticism hurts you."
However, the worst moment, the biggest failure, the most "screwed" thing that
Ana Belén
has gone through was not because of a bad review: "I remember an album that was titled
Como una novia
, which I didn't have a very good time with. We had had a lot of problems economic with the production company when we got into the cinema. It was a terrible time. It was screwed (...)
We lost everything and with many debts
. As a result of that Víctor composed
Where Will the Kisses Go
and paid all the debts. It was very difficult because we couldn't hold anything against each other.
It was a moment when I didn't know how we would turn out
."
Ana Belén
is an actress, she is a singer, she is "yaya" and she is still the
Ana Belén
who stood one day in the Congress of Deputies with another group of actors and friends to protest against the war in Iraq. That "no to war" scene in which
Ana Belén
had to ask
María Barranco
for an Orfidal . Because behind that temperance there has always been an
Ana Belén
with a very clear ideology that she has never hidden or hidden. Not last night either. She is aware that many of her words, her demands, her protests are not liked, but she learned a long time ago that not everyone can like her.
"The bullshit is that they have made people afraid to express themselves," he said when
Jordi Évole
put on the table the cancellation of the adaptation of Romeo and Juliet by decision of the Jaén City Council. She lit up, but only in the way she knows how to light up, without fuss, without shouting, without losing her manners, saying what it is for her and stirring: "
They have made many people afraid
. Fear that if I express myself in a certain way I could cause problems when hiring me. You have to learn from a young age that many times they will say no to you and that you can't please everyone. But when you're young you don't understand this. I learned this very early."
So soon, although you might think that
Ana Belén
only always points her ideology towards the same side, you are wrong. They called
her and
Rosa León
the Jiminy Grillo of the Communist Party.
"They called us antipathizing militants
," she revealed. "Before there were critical currents,"
Évole
added . "Yes, they are very monolithic now." All.
"When elections come and you see slogans like communism or freedom, what do you think?"
Évole
pulled the thread. And
Ana Belén
continued the thread: "What is freedom?
Having an olive and having public health in conditions?
One thing is not at odds with the other. But what is more important: an olive or doctors and not having waiting lists for months. Populist discourse is so easy to do... Has communism in Spain done anything wrong? In the most complicated times of this country the people who were working were the people who were active in the PC.
People who gave their lives for democracy
. Democracy has cost a lot."
Ana Belén's
me
too
"Are we now more in the two Spains than in the 80s?"
Évole
continued . "Of course! In the 80s there was a certain unanimity because it was about this country equipping itself to be a modern, European country. And not now." "Do you enjoy when trials are made at 78?"
Évole
poking at the wound. "Bloody hell. Of course the Transition was imperfect. How do you do it with all the people there were? Of course I would have liked it a lot more at that time, but coming from where we came from it was so important...
It was the people who "It pushed from the streets, the neighborhoods, the associations
. The Transition was not made by some gentlemen who sat down, it was made by society. And we should be proud of that as citizens."
-Is it necessary to die to enter heaven?
-No.
-Do all tyrants embrace each other like brothers?
-As brothers or as close friends.
-You only ask God...
-I just ask God to get me out of this.
At 72 years old,
Ana Belén
has walked many paths since she began her career at just 13 years old. She, along with another good string of actresses, has experienced first-hand the advances, but also the setbacks. She experienced her own
death
when a well-known director cornered her against a wall and kissed her. "I laughed nervously at an unusual and violent situation and wanted to get to my hotel soon. And then I had to shoot the whole movie." And he told her like someone who tells one more anecdote from her life, but without ceasing to surprise or outrage. Just as she was outraged and continues to be outraged when, after filming The Turkish Passion, journalists asked her what
Víctor Manuel
thought of the erotic scenes in the film. She is so outraged by that... "I said, but what is this... I feel insulted. What is this, what do you think about this? Would you ask this type of counter question to Víctor? No. And why the hell are you doing it to me?"
And
Jordi Évole
and
Ana Belén
went to see the sunset. And
Jordi Évole
asked her if she and
Víctor Manuel
have an open relationship. And she hesitated. And
Jordi Évole
wanted to know if they were thinking about retirement. And she... she can't even imagine it: "You know what happens, that above all it makes me so happy. And what I am, I am because of this profession, because I have become a person with this profession. The people I have been with state has made me an adult.
They ended up in the only place they could end up: in a karaoke bar. "Play it again, old loser, you know it suits you. The night is so sad that your song tastes of defeat and honey...".