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"No", answers

(Beirut, 1972) to Ángel, the photographer, when he asks if he can

.

The actor does not raise his voice, he simply answers, but from his 1.91 and his 130 kilos, two letters are enough to settle any debate.

Whoever was heavyweight champion of Spain, poet and comedian, is bored of repeating how he went from all that to who he is today, the star around which HBO and The Mediapro Studio have built

, his new series.

He does not deny the past, but he lives in the moment.

One in which he has been clean for a year and a half of his

, but that has not changed its way of being.

Hovik is not in a hurry, he laughs out loud and philosophizes without avoiding topics, but he always dominates the situation.

He likes her and she knows it.

The Americans invented the expression

, larger than life, for guys like him.

Astrud sang that "there is a man in Spain who does everything".

It's you?

Holy shit, don't fuck around.

Unlike.

They have always offered me many things, fortunately, and I have never been afraid to say no, like now with the photo.

No bad vibes or anything, I just don't feel like it and I don't.

I have rejected many offers because they did not fit me, they did not interest me or the economic offer did not fit me.

In fact, after finishing

, I entered a moment of disconnection from everything and of absolute physical and mental cleanliness and I spent a whole year without working, which made me feel like God.

What do you reject by system? I don't do television programs, although they have offered me to present contests and everything you can imagine.

And, for now, I have not agreed to advertise either.

I know I'm an outlier on this, but it's because they screwed up fucking

of the balls and they have done us a disservice, especially to the new generations.

I refuse, I am an actor, I do one thing, period.

Why do we need to do a thousand things at once?

Why is that a good thing? We've been convinced that ambition is always a virtue. You see, it's absurd.

When I'm making movies they ask me when I'll write again;

when I'm writing, when I'm going to make movies... Boy, leave me alone.

I do one thing: I'm walking, I'm walking;

I'm cooking, I'm cooking

I'm rolling, I'm rolling

The rock that is at everything overwhelms me.

They have made us the great trap of becoming our own bosses.

Before the boss gave you ass so you could work more, now you do it yourself.

I see a lot of kids with the obligation to comply with everything 100% from eight in the morning to 11 at night.

It's not my case.

I'm not telling you if you also have social networks... By the way, I'm taking this opportunity to make it clear: I don't have networks, that there is a gang that I have reported to the National Police...

Hovik KeuchkerianÁNGEL NAVARRETE

Has your identity been stolen?

Profiles are made by putting Hovik Keuchkerian and there is one in particular who posts photos, posts comments and answers the gang.

Hooking on your question, I turn off my phone and disappear.

It gives me absolute peace. Boxing, addictions... Are you tired of us asking you about the past?

No, because I am in a very powerful healing process.

There has come a time when I'm not fed up with practically anything.

I have my horns, which fortunately are usually funny and not excessively violent, but I have understood that I can only do what is in my power, which is the same thing that I have been doing all my life: being with my people, being the most correct and close possible and continue expressing my opinion freely after having done a reflection work.

If I focused on what touches my balls,

I couldn't go out on the street because so many things touch my balls.

What does happen to me is that some journalists make me want to say: "Can you explain where you've been for the last 10 years, dude?"

Because you come to ask me at this point, surprised, how you go from being a boxer to being an actor... I could almost ask myself the questions.

But I'm in a zen phase.

Zen with his point of bad host.

Spanish-Armenian Zen, we could say.

You've been clean for a year and a half, have you tamed the beast?

It wasn't a matter of taming her, but there came a time when she was no longer enjoying being that beast and it stopped making sense.

I was adrift, although I'm telling you that now with perspective and having passed through it.

More than taming it is knowing it.

My addicted part was never an enemy nor did I treat it as such.

I don't reject her and I don't hate her.

I've been hooked on alcohol, tobacco and sex, but I'm not here now wanting to have a whiskey.

I have understood that that state was not fulfilling me.

I'm not going to tell you that it has been easy, because it hasn't been, but if I were now struggling not to turn on a

I would smoke it without any problem.

I am a person who fights, but if it is against my senses and desires, I know that I am going to lose.

If I have healed it is because I have understood that I was harming myself, not because it is what I was supposed to do. You have just turned 50, the body also asks for arnica.

That's it, that's it.

I have grown older and it is impossible for me to be well without doing without all those addictions.

They didn't allow me to enjoy 100% or be 100% effective in the other facets of my life, so I stopped, but I'm still the same.

I am amused by those people who, when talking about these things, say: "It wasn't me at that time."

How not?

You are always you, better or worse, but it is you.

If now I am in a moment in which I have never been and I find myself as I have never found myself,

it is because everything I have lived before has helped me to know myself very well.

Of course, I assure you that I will continue working so that my current state does not change.

The topical question here would be if you are happier now, assuming that you were not when you gave everything.

People look for that moral that calms them down, but I had moments when I was very happy with my hooks.

Here we enter to value the concept of happiness and we return to the need of the human being to put things into concepts.

A wise man in Ancient Greece said: "I am going to define happiness, will and excess."

We named a state and it was associated with something you're supposed to be after.

Boot failed.

Boy, do what you have to do every day, put one little foot behind the other,

learn to drop things instead of adding them and you'll probably do better.

It's not that complex, but nothing, we're going to complicate everything with happiness, suffering, expectations... Are you going to ask me about Hollywood? villain in

].

Damn, I've already been there, what does it matter?

¿Why is it so important?

From 20 to 50, I left home with 30,000 bucks in my pocket, I set up a gym, then I set up another, I made a career as a boxer, I stopped boxing, I was a poet, I was a comedian, suddenly they called me to do

and I discovered a profession.

There are 30 years in which I have lived in a healthy and less healthy way, but with a lot of passion, which was what I had lost in the last stage and what made me react.

I have been lucky enough to embark on a thousand things: from some I have come out on my feet and from others lying on the ground, from some bleeding and from others not, in some I have won and in others I have lost.

I am extremely lucky to have an acting career choosing reasonably well and with good results.

I am extremely lucky that one day they call me for the most watched series in the history of the platforms [

].

I am extremely lucky that Mr. Rodrigo Sorogoyen calls me and the great character comes out and gives me another push [

].

Then he comes to me to find HBO for

... And you ask me about Hollywood?

You are foolish?

I am privileged.

When I get up, I give thanks to heaven, earth, mother nature or whoever gets my balls out of my mind and before I go to bed I do exactly the same.

No, man, I'm not thinking about that, fuck Hollywood. I'm glad I didn't ask you about Hollywood, because you have become enormous for the character of

.

You're a little scary. I got a little out of hand.

I gained 47 kilos and went down to 150. Now I'm at 130. I've warmed up with Hollywood, but I'm here right now thinking only of chatting with you, and on Monday I'll have what I have to do on Monday and so on.

That concept of being here makes me sick, but to be thinking: "I have a Smart, but it would suck to have a Smart four-door."

We are assholes.

Seriously, we are totally assholes. Your story with Jorge Dorado, the creator of the series, goes back a long way.

I have a brotherhood with Jorge Blass, the magician, whom I met because he came to see me box and he is responsible for me being an actor today.

Since I was a child, I imitate Eugenio very well and on his birthday I always ended up doing it.

When I left boxing, the void came and started my dark stage.

Jorge, for motivating me with something,

He invited me to go on stage with him one day at Galileo.

He made me hypnotized and I imitated Eugenio.

It was 2007 and people split their dicks.

Back in the dressing room, Ángel Viejo, the owner of the room, came by and he asked me why not one day I would do my

there.

I had no

No shit, he was a retired boxer, but he encouraged me to write a monologue and I accepted.

That's how it all started.

I debuted with the Galileo fired up with 400 people.

Didn't it scare you? It didn't impress me, no.

In fact, I felt in my place, something that had never happened to me in a ring.

The state of a healthy boxer is one of relaxed alertness and I never got it, I was always tense.

However, on stage I was comfortable from the first moment.

Going back to Jorge Dorado, I've strayed, I shared a table with him on one of Jorge Blass's birthdays and, when I got up to go to the bathroom, he asked what I did.

Blass told him: "He is a former boxer, he has a gym, he is a poet and now he is a comedian and he is hitting it off."

And Dorado replied: "Your colleague is an actor, but he still doesn't know it."

How about?

When did you find out that you were?

In

thanks to Mr. Roberto Enríquez, who is the first great reference I had in this profession.

They offered me that by chance, because a boxing student of mine was a scriptwriter for the series and he came up with the idea, and I was extremely lucky to always be attached to an exceptional guy like Roberto.

He welcomed me, protected me and taught me, because I hadn't done anything and suddenly I had a secondary role in a

on Antena 3 in 2010, when there were still no platforms and six million Spaniards watched you.

Does fame bother you?

I haven't heard, man.

I don't think I would have known how to manage fame any other way than the way I'm doing it: without doing anything.

You ask me and I answer.

I don't get the chip of "I'm very well known already", "think what you say".

It does not go with my way of being.

I have always cared very little, to say nothing, about the opinion of others about what I do or don't do.

What Hovik does in his personal and professional life is Hovik's decision.

Before I was famous, I was already known in my circles, I suppose because of my way of being.

I've never been an anonymous guy.

At school he was already "the Armenian", "the Moor" or "the Russian".

If your name is Hovik Keuchkerian in the year 76 in Spain,

Franco recently died, there is laughter at roll call every day and God knows you.

Also, I've always started things big, not progressively.

I started boxing, did six amateur fights and made my professional debut on the Leganés Deck in front of 12,000 spectators and live for all of Spain on TV.

I have never cared what they think of me.

It's the truth.

I don't think I have changed anything.

Have you reinvented yourself or has life reinvented you?

Reinventing yourself is another concept that sounds very nice, but it's bullshit.

Life has taken me.

They tell me all the time how well you do comedy, how well you write... But we don't talk about the hosts they've given me, nor about the trains I've jumped from or the ones I've gotten scalded.

Only talk about the one who wins.

Since Cristiano Ronaldo started playing football,

How many people of your quality have not arrived due to 8,000 circumstances beyond your control?

Another thing that you learn over time is to take care of what is yours, what you can control, because life is going to put you in situations that are not in the plan and what you have to do is adapt.

That's not reinventing yourself, it's living.

You say you haven't changed with fame, but how the rest see you has changed. Without a doubt.

The surroundings have changed much more than me.

Fame is more in the one who looks at you than in yourself, although it doesn't affect me too much either.

I am a person who is alone because I need my hours a day to be at home quietly reading, cooking, watching something or scratching my balls looking at the ceiling.

I am very good at dosing myself: I know that I have to give everything in the job and I charge energy to do it.

But that's all.

nor to presentations.

I don't go anywhere to be given things because if I want something I'll buy it myself.

I take off all the show business.

It's going to sound ugly, but I'm proof that you can succeed in this job only by doing your job well.

Without posturing or hosts.

If a director wants to work with me, he should call me and I'd be happy to go to his office at 10 in the morning to have a coffee with him, but why do I have to meet with anyone at 12 at night in a joint?

At 12 at night I am exhausted.

You are made a gentleman.

Now yes.

I've recovered the routine I had from when he was a boxer and it's fucking good.

Eight years ago I woke up one day and decided to leave the neighborhood [Hortaleza].

Now, at six in the morning I'm on the street, walking through the town [Alpedrete], and at half past nine at night I'm nodding off.

In fucking glory. You're going to end up quoting Pablo Coelho and writing self-help books. Fuck me.

This topic makes me laugh.

If you meditate wonderful, if you do

fantastic, but don't give me the turra as if you had discovered the wheel.

Of course you can be at home still and in absolute silence for 15 minutes and it's fucking crazy.

What a novelty!

I am a person who, without knowing it, his whole fucking life has been listening to his soul.

I have moved like this.

I'm not overly intelligent in intellect, but I am an emotionally charged guy with a powerful subconscious.

I have been moved by things that I have never been able to explain.

Why are you going there?

Well, because my body is asking me to go there.

But why?

I have no fucking idea, but I'm going.

Whatchim have you now discovered all this and are you excited?

Fantastic, but don't give me any pamphleteering.

They are teaching people not to label and to flow while they themselves generate their own fucking sect.

Stay still, trunk.

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