What happened, Mr. Cantó? I have dedicated 25% of my working life to politics and I had been wanting to live more peacefully for some time.

It's difficult, because it's very engaging, but it's also a very hard and thankless activity.

And I make him happy for having served my country and my voters, and for having been in the First Division. that daily battle. But if battle is your natural environment, my friend... I don't know how to practice politics or live in any other way.

It's my character.

I fight dialectically, I confront, I say things as I feel them, clearly and firmly.

And I think that has been part of my success, if I may say so. Of its success... and of the parsley in all the sauces.

Because you have taken a good solfa of sticks.

ring

? They wanted me, but I have been, above all, an instrument to poke Isabel Díaz Ayuso.

She is the

black beast

on the left and they don't know how to end it.

But they have it raw, because the more they fight her, the phenomenon gets bigger. You said that going down the street with her was like doing it with Madonna.

Aren't we dazzling ourselves with so much spectacle?

Blessed problem that all politicians would like to have.

Pedro Sánchez cannot go out on the street without being booed.

He confesses: have you been a good politician? What I do believe is that I have been honest.

I may have messed up on many occasions, but I have never messed up. Shall we do a little introspective balance?

Shoot. I carry a brutal experience in my pocket, having been inside the system.

Politics is a crash course in the best and worst of the human race.

An invaluable self-knowledge tool.

And what has Mr. Cantó discovered about himself in these years?

He has me intrigued... My resistance, my hard skin, also an impatience that has to do with the lack of reflection, and that has made me make mistakes.

And I've realized that to survive in this world you need a component

killer

that I don't have. Well, if you're not a

killer

, turn off and let's go... I'm referring to the ability to see things three screens ahead, something I've detected in very few people.

Among them, Albert Rivera, someone with an admirable bogeyman for politics. You have just published the book

When I was young I was on the left but then I matured

.

Isn't that a tostón sovereign to mature?

It is less intense.

But intensity is a drug, and a dangerous one at that.

So it's good to leave her behind.

You, who lived La Movida, and also as an actor, who is not the same as a property registrar, had to hit that Madrid hard...When the UPYD gave me the spokesperson for the drug issue in Congress, they I asked why, and they answered: "Well, since you're an artist...".

And that struck me as prejudice.

Precisely because I'm an actor, I didn't get out of control.

If I have a theater show the next day, I can't party until six in the morning, because I know I'm not going to give my best, and besides, I'm not going to enjoy myself.

I confess that I have had little stamina.

But yes, I lived in a very fun and free Madrid where everyone thought what they wanted,

where no one messed with your sexual orientation or your ideology.

It was not even mentioned!

Today that is unthinkable, and the art world has become prudish, predictable, fearful... With his hand on his heart.

Where are there more gulfs, in the

Artisteo

or in politics? The percentage of thugs, crooks and opportunists are practically the same in almost all professions.

But it is true that politics and

artistry

put you in front of something that makes many people lose their minds, which is public exposure, the microphone, the camera.

That magnifying glass makes your soul look like the light that attracts moths.

The other day Willy Toledo called you a facha and you said that he liked the nickname.

You have to give me the name of his therapist, because it sucks... I love that you say that.

Willy is a friend of mine and I love him very much, but he and

co

.

they are getting old.

The revolutionary thing now is not to be progressive, it is to fight all the enemies of freedom.

the new

punk

It is the right. Now that his salary is not going well, shall we try to pay Pedro Sánchez a compliment? He lies very well. Surely we can get something good out of him.

Come on, second try.

I've already said it, that it lies very well... We didn't even talk about consensus, then... The ushers of the Congress told me that in the Transition the cafeteria was fundamental.

There, Fraga, Suárez and Carrillo held endless talks, smoking and having a drink.

But some have insisted on confronting us again, putting us back in the trenches.

The famous cafeteria with gin and tonics at three and a half euros? I have never seen a politician drink a gin and tonic in that cafeteria. With or without gin and tonic, are we talking about the Spanish Office? will hold the second Festival de la Hispanidad, I have established collaboration agreements with the RAE,

with Cervantes, with the Ortega y Marañón Foundation and with five different universities, with which I created Spanish courses for Ukrainian refugees and for immigrants who have to take exams in our language.

We also created science dialogues in Spanish with the Rafael del Pino Foundation and the Ramón Areces Foundation.

The Spanish Week will take place shortly, which will bring together the entire national ecosystem for teaching our language in Madrid, and I have launched several projects that will survive me, because several advisers have assured me so: the of the

We also created science dialogues in Spanish with the Rafael del Pino Foundation and the Ramón Areces Foundation.

The Spanish Week will take place shortly, which will bring together the entire national ecosystem for teaching our language in Madrid, and I have launched several projects that will survive me, because several advisers have assured me so: the of the

We also created science dialogues in Spanish with the Rafael del Pino Foundation and the Ramón Areces Foundation.

The Spanish Week will take place shortly, which will bring together the entire national ecosystem for teaching our language in Madrid, and I have launched several projects that will survive me, because several advisers have assured me so: the of the

Forgotten words

from nursing homes, the language contest in schools in the Community of Madrid... And there are more things.

It has been a very intense year.

And now what? In October I embark on a

late show

on television channel 7NN that will be broadcast on Saturday nights, and to which people will come to tell us about their projects and in which there will also be a lot of humor.

It is a project with which I am very excited and that I face with great enthusiasm.

And I hope, if the profession allows me, to get back on stage. Do you think your former colleagues are going to veto you?

It's not that I believe it, it's that I'm already living it.

But I am convinced that I will do things again.

The

change of jacket

He has given them a game... Not even the Champions League. What surprises me is that there are people who wear the communist or socialist jacket.

That is the aberration.

After seeing how these ideologies have only created death and destruction, the good thing is

to change your jacket

.To return to?

To politics, I mean... I don't think so. Are you sure? I don't think so... I don't think so?

Or is it a maybe?

I don't think so.

No. Can you give me one last frivolity to degrease? I like gardening, sports and animals.

I had some turtles that I gave to the Valencia Oceanographic.

Anyone who wants can go visit them.

As a good Valencian, I cook three or four types of rice well;

I try to imitate, although I can't, what my grandmother Hortensia used to do, because I grew up with her flavors and those flavors are the ones I try to recover.

Four years ago I found the woman of my life.

And I am romantic.

Or as my grandfather used to say,

ballads

.

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