ZF Friedrichshafen is one of the largest automotive suppliers in the world, with tens of thousands of employees and a long tradition.

Now he is in the middle of a huge transformation, wants to earn a lot more money with software in the future and is building up corresponding business areas.

An important partner is the tech group Microsoft.

In this episode, ZF CEO Wolf-Henning Scheider and Microsoft Europe President Ralph Haupter discuss how difficult it is, what is important, who is the master of the data behind the services - and why a German industrial group for international distribution relies on an international tech provider.