Andrés Lima and Juan Cavestany, 25 years of love for the theater

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"It seems like it was yesterday," they say as a good couple worth their salt, remembering their beginnings together, but 25 years have passed. Not even they are aware that they already have a quarter of a century of

and dozens of adventures together since they began in 1997. It was the first time that the director, now the National Theater Award Winner, Andrés Lima, and the playwright Juan Cavestany met united as an artistic couple. Alberto San Juan together with other actors then formed the company Ración de Oreja. Lima had his own company, called Risk. From the sum, Risk Ration was born, the germ of what was later the prolific and applauded Animalario, which premiered with

, with texts by Cavestany, San Juan and Lima and directed by the latter.

Paradoxically, love, in addition to friendship, continues to unite them 25 years later on stage. Lima and Cavestany premiere at the Teatros del Canal de Madrid

(from January 12 to February 5), a disturbing and disturbing dissection of that everyday love and, therefore, a

far removed from the

cinematographic

and the "they ate partridges" of children's stories. The

that made the American writer Raymond Carver the master of the short story arrives for the first time in Spanish theaters through a collection of dysfunctional relationships, frustrations, humiliations, disappointments and harshness based on his stories

. Because that is also love. Or, as Medea said, "there is no greater pain than love."

"There are few themes other than love and death. Everything else is variations," says Andrés Lima. "

, even. Carver is the alcohol, the tortuous relationships, the precarious jobs in a collapsing America and through all that he is getting closer to something high, to an almost mystical moment in the evocation of what true love can be", analyzes Cavestany. "If there is something we need in these times of illness, it is love and all that it entails:

... Love is a subject that must be constantly reviewed and about which we know too little.

," adds Lima.

Juan Cavestany and Andrés Lima on stage at the Green Room of the Teatros del Canal.ÁNGEL NAVARRETE

With an explosive dramatic power, this portrait of two American middle-class couples -played by Javier Gutiérrez, Mónica Regueiro, Vicky Luengo and Daniel Pérez Prada- uses

to try to answer one of the big questions: what it is love.

This is where the violence of love, pain, hate and discomfort appear.

"Caver tells us that love is a place where you suffer a lot," sums up Andrés Lima.

love and war...civil

Principantes

is the latest collaboration in a long list signed by Lima and Cavestany that began 25 years ago. Commissions, adaptations, collaborations and creations that have since had one thing in common: "

", sums up Cavestany. "I have full confidence in everything that Juan writes. It is a relationship that occurs in a very natural and spontaneous way. We share artistic and vital concerns and maybe, like a good couple, it will not run out over time," adds Lima.

Laughing, they both remember that first production in the Cuarta Pared room created in 15 days with small short pieces signed by both and San Juan, as well as the first years of Animalario. "Many things and many complicity arose from there," recalls the director. Shortly after,

and in 2003 the famous Goya gala of No to War and

, signed by Cavestany and Juan Mayorga, directed by Lima and with San Juan, Gutiérrez, Roberto Álamo and Guillermo Toledo. A montage that, as Cavestany recalls,

.

Today, with such a polarized country, wouldn't it rain down many more sticks? "I don't think the political situation has changed so much. Now it's easier to mess with each other.

. At that time it is true that there was more fear of messing with Aznar. The PP had a majority absolute and that made him enjoy an idyllic situation that made it possible to have that wedding in El Escorial no matter what the others said", analyzes Lima.

Urtain

, the magnificent work on the life of the Spanish boxer José Manuel Ibar who won nine Max awards, brought them together again in 2008 and finished raising Animalario. Then came, among others,

, and the adaptation of

. And also a way of working based on research and workshops that perfectly exemplify what they understand as teamwork:

.

Precisely in this way, the award-winning

was born and that is also the beginning of its new project on the Civil War, designed for 2024. "The purpose is to offer a very contemporary look. It was born when I realized that

being one of the most important conflicts in the History of Spain since the Catholic Monarchs and, on the other hand, of the contemporary concern of where the world and Spain are going and why fascism resurfaces" advances the director.

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