Carlo Padial Interview: "There are many similarities between rap and psychoanalysis"
Humor The junkie of psychoanalysis
For five years, between the ages of 23 and 28, Carlo Padial did therapy with Dr. Portuondo. An exiled Cuban and a great follower of
Jacobo Moreno, the creator of the psychodrama
, Portuondo was fascinated by Freud and
used to insult his patients, whom he called "shit eaters" or "shits"
and sometimes kicked them out of the office. Other times he would lie himself on the couch and explain his problems to them. Schizophrenics and psychotics were his favorites. Padial and many others had their lives changed.
More than a doctor, Portuondo was
a psychoanalytic guru,
a "detective of the unconscious." He died without being able to fulfill his dream, which was to return to his long-awaited Santiago de Cuba. In 2017 Padial wrote a kind of concentrated memoir about his five years of therapy entitled
Doctor Portuondo
(Blackie Books) where he overturned his neuroses: inability to relate to others, low self-esteem, the feeling of never being interesting, sophisticated and
cool
enough.
.
.. in short,
a book about how difficult it is to grow up and live.
Now comes the series, the first to be produced by Filmin, directed by Padial himself and which since its premiere last Friday has already achieved a milestone:
being the most watched in the entire history of Filmin
.
Starring
Nacho Sánchez
, who prodigiously plays a version of Carlo himself, and
a volcanic Jorge Perugorría in the role of Portuondo
, the series has luxury supporting casts such as Berto Romero (who plays a commercial obsessed with flirting at the Furniture Fair of Valencia),
Olivia Delcán
in the role of the also neurotic (ex) girlfriend of Carlo and Carlos de Diego, who in addition to being a co-writer, was also a patient of Portuondo and in the series she plays a La Bella Easo sybarite who participates in psychodrama sessions.
We know Padial for his viral videos, pills where he usually
exploits his anguish in the manner of a modern Woody Allen
, and for his appearances on
Late Motiv
with Andreu Buenafuente. He wrote and directed the films
Mi loco Erasmus
and
Algo muy gordo
, two examples of what critics agreed to call "
post-humor",
but
Doctor Portundo
is, let's put it that way, more formally classical despite the delusional nature of many of his situations. "In the book I tried to do something very overwhelming and fun, even the titles of each chapter had to be hilarious, but I think
the series has another point. I am calmer now,
less burdened by money and in recent years everything has been better for me, "he sums up.
In the series, Carlo feels a need to impress Dr. Portuondo and
becomes obsessed with entertaining his therapist rather than healing, so he lies.
"According to psychoanalysis, a healthy person is capable of telling his own story. But what happens when you think your story is not worth it?", Says Padial, who has recreated the sessions in an office with walls lined with wood, rugs and sofas that creak, as in a sensory journey to the twentieth century. "One of the most vivid memories I have of therapy, as I was getting into it, is that of free association, which is
speaking without censorship in order to access the unconscious.
When you are there, the consultation ends up looking something fictitious , like a set. And
You come out touched, I would say even a little high
. "
The series, as if it were a session, begins with absurd humor, goes through moments of terror (there is a scene that is very
The chimerical tenant
) and ends with a bath of reality that is pure tenderness.
"What saves you in the end is being critical of yourself. Also compassion, finding the imperfection in all of us.
Even if you are a misanthrope from the outside, the desire to connect prevails, despite everything. That is what it taught me. Portuondo
. The last time I saw him I did a very long interview that is posted on YouTube and I asked him: what is life? He answered me what he says in the series: 'Life is this: you and I, here and now'".
Doctor Portuondo
is many things: a romantic psycho-comedy with Bergmanian humor and winks, an endearing satire on the neuroses of an excessively self-conscious generation, and also
a stimulating outreach exercise on therapy and psychoanalysis
. "Portuondo was capable of turning psychoanalysis into something simple, he knew how to translate Freud into the Latin spirit," says Padial. The Cuban also believed that Spain is an antipsicoanalytic country due to the weight of religion and modesty to share conflicts outside the family.
"I also believe that in Spain psychoanalysis continues to be seen as an exoticism," says Padial. "Even educated people air it out without having read it too much,
there are always a few Freud topics, which are the same, but very few have bothered to read
The Interpretation of Dreams
or
Totem and Taboo
or something by Melanie Klein. I am an idiot, I approach things on impulse, not from an intellectual plane, and psychoanalysis appealed to me from an aesthetic point of view. I found it sophisticated, something I wanted to be a part of.
The fact that it was a therapy that gives so much power to the word seemed something nice to me, that it could fit with me,
"he confesses.
"
In Spain, in general, there is a mistrust towards everything that exudes intelligence, that is why most comedians pretend to be fools
with a different voice than their own when, in reality, the comedian is always the cleverest of the room, "he muses.
"It is something cultural, here people are appreciated 'simple', 'folksy'. I personally do not want the artists I admire to be anything of the sort. If you approach them it is because their ideas blow your mind. they make things look different. "
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