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So she's walking down the catwalk as only she can.

Only dressed in a Victoria's Secret underwear ensemble, albeit without the stupid wings on the back.

In the front row, Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs, Denzel Washington, Pharrell Williams - smirking, amazed, not being able to believe their luck.

A summit of entertainers, but in the face of this woman, they turn into schoolboys.

Naomi Campbell and Pharrell Williams watch this performance briefly as "one-player" during their conversation.

For a talk show host, it gives a head start if she has known most of the guests for decades and is at least regarded as a legend by them.

Seen in this way, Naomi Campbell, who interviews companions on YouTube on her show "No Filter with Naomi", plays in the lonely heights of Oprah Winfrey and David Letterman.

Her guest list is also spectacular: Sharon Stone, Venus and Serena Williams, Mariah Carey, Cindy Crawford, Gwyneth Paltrow.

And yet her show looks like it was homemade, it is not a megahit either.

What's wrong?

Crawford's eulogy interrupts her gruffly

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The episode, in which she questioned the pop star and overproducer Pharrell Williams for almost 40 minutes, has been seen by 28,000 people worldwide to date.

He has twelve million Instagram followers and she has ten million.

And the show, if you can call the format that, is full of humor and empathy.

You are torn between being ashamed of others and the joy of seeing you again with two eternally young circus horses.

The two leave nothing out: skin care, kids, skateboarding, Karl Lagerfeld and Williams key roles in challenging gender stereotypes.

"I've been working with Chanel since 1986", Campbell lectures (and despite the unfortunate hairstyle he looks so good that one pauses for a moment). No filter “also means: few cuts.

“I sat at home and wanted to know how my friends are doing,” says Naomi Campbell, explaining how it came about: “They feel comfortable and speak openly.” She is anything but a born interviewer.

Her subject changes are breakneck, from Williams' old friend and musical partner (Chad) she jumps to one of his fashionable trademarks ("hat"), presumably only because it rhymes.

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When an interviewee starts an eulogy for photographers of the century with whom she was allowed to work, her host interrupts almost surly: "May I ask you something?"

The praise to their guests sounds so solemn that it seems pure irony.

She also likes to listen to others.

But just not too long.

Because there is still a law of nature.

Nobody, except perhaps the sun itself, is allowed to outshine Naomi Campbell.

The first person she spoke to on “No Filter” was her model colleague Cindy Crawford.

Despite the honest name of the show, they had really made an effort with their hair: Crawford with a 90s mane, fake-modestly dimmed down to the businesswoman and mother, Campbell as if freshly ironed.

Both sat in front of walls full of black and white photos of themselves, which inevitably led to a kind of

pic-swinging contest

, the analogy to those exhibition fights in which men compete against each other for their life's achievements (in representation of their anatomical peculiarities).

“I have a couple of Helmuts.

And that under the herb is a Patrick, ”says Crawford, which sounds like a quote from the fashion satire“ The devil wears Prada ”- meaning the fashion photographers Newton, Ritts and Demarchelier.

"Do you have a Penn?", Naomi counters and tells how the aged Irving Penn received her again for a cup of tea in New York and gave her a silver print from a joint production.

He did that with all of his favorite models.

“I did not receive the invitation.

Or wasn't on the list, ”says Crawford bravely.

Needless to say

: Penn was the most important of all.

Every now and then tries her hand at journalism: Naomi Campbell at the Cannes Film Festival in 2018

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But it always seems that way.

Everyone has fun with their “chosen family” - the euphemism for female colleagues you just can't get rid of - and in the end Naomi gets the main prize.

When they rave about the good old days, the excellent catering at the photo shoots in the desert with Herb Ritts and the generous designers, Crawford mentions that after working with Chanel she was allowed to choose a dress or a bag.

Naomi, on the other hand, was regularly faced with another question: "How do I get all this stuff home?"

Only learned to wash clothes in withdrawal

“No Filter” is not Naomi Campbell's first step into journalism.

In addition to the obligatory memoirs and memorable coffee table books, around 2012 she worked as an interviewer for the Russian and German editions of the magazine “Interview” founded by Andy Warhol, which her boyfriend at the time, the Russian entrepreneur Wladislaw Doronin, co-financed.

Back then, the interviewees were also top-class: the architect Zaha Hadid, the super super model Iman Bowie, the Rolling Stones guitarist Ron Wood.

The interviews themselves were confused, redundant, at times naive, but nobody but Naomi could have conducted them like that.

At Iman Bowie you could feel all her respect for a colleague who actually had to (and did) open the doors to black models.

And in conversation with Wood they discovered that they both had only learned how to operate a washing machine in the addiction clinic.

Pulitzer Prize material is not.

But the performance of Oprah Winfrey in her interview with Harry and Meghan was not in the question strategy, but in a wow in the right place.

And of course in the confidence that the two of them had in her: that she would not fool them rhetorically and offer them the greatest possible stage.

Naomi Campbell is far from both.

And their wordy show “No Filter” an antidote to our otherwise hasty present, which is often only about visual stimuli.

When Kim Kardashian posted three photos with waist-high boots with camouflage patterns on Instagram these days, she got 2.8 million likes.

For that a Naomi has to talk for a long time.

Despite the involuntary comedy, "No Filter with Naomi" stands for the basic assumption, which has unfortunately gone out of fashion, that people are interesting, especially if you like them: Venus Williams, who shows her biceps, Gwyneth Paltrow, who talks about acting and social media, the activist Dr.

Shola Mos-Shogbamimu, who with her verve actually manages to agitate Naomi against the wall.

“You always asked me which skin products to use,” Naomi says to Pharrell Williams, which in this case is actually an elegant transition to his freshly launched unisex cosmetics line.

He says goodbye with the most beautiful “Star Wars” path: “You are a force.

There will never be another like you. ”Perhaps one would click there again.

Boring to awesome - talk shows from other career changers:

Uncharmant: Andy Warhol

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Andy Warhol's

MTV talk show "15 Minutes" was based on the assumption that everything is interesting - and nothing.

The pop artist, who was addicted to television all his life, invited friends and acquaintances, from Grace Jones to the artist Kenny Scharf, and asked monosyllabic, banal questions like: “Are underpants the new thing?” The refusal to be funny or To be charming can still be seen as revolutionary today.

Naughty: Zach Galifianakis

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Zach Galifianakis

proceeded quite differently

.

The actor became famous for his role in the “Hangover” trilogy and started the talk series “Between Two Ferns” on the website “Funny or Die”, the name related to the studio decoration: two ferns in pots.

Galifianakis mercilessly insulted his guests who accepted this as a challenge and played along, from Brad Pitt to Barack Obama.

Only conceivable in the USA.

Tipsy: Hailey Bieber

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Actress and model

Hailey Bieber

, the part-time wife of today's most successful pop star, recently tried her hand at being a talk show host: For the premiere of “Who's In My Bathroom?” She invited Kendall Jenner into her, logically, bathroom.

The two drank Jenner's controversial tequila "818", giggled a lot and cooked Mac'n'Cheese.

First point of contention: does butter get into the cooking water?

So has potential.