Stos and Seth Gueko.
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O.JUSZCZAK
Stos, one of Seth Gueko's children, follows in his father's footsteps and also tries his luck in rap.
This Friday, both present their first joint album "Like father like son".
Seth Gueko has not said his last word.
While he devotes himself mainly to his activities in the world of cooking and that of tattooing - not to mention his appearance in the series
La Flamme
-, Seth Gueko is back, two years after
Destroy
.
But he did not come alone.
Professor Punchline (one of his many nicknames) returns to the forefront of the music scene with his 19-year-old son, rapper Stos.
Satisfied with a first collaboration at the end of 2019, the duo decided to transform the test into an album of seven titles, titled
Like father tel son
, released this Friday.
Fans of hardcore rap by Seth Gueko will find there his inimitable style, say very "colorful", as well as the first steps of Stos in rap, worthy heir to his father.
20 Minutes
met them on this occasion.
Seth Gueko told you last year in a media that rap was no longer your priority.
Have you changed your mind ?
Seth Gueko:
For me, rap is secondary.
I'm no longer in the business of wanting to be present, of following the
game
… I have solid foundations with my fanbase, she saw me evolve, she grew old at the same time as me and some fans have become dads or moms like me.
They also heard about my son in my songs when I was younger, and in my music videos as an extra.
They are the first to be at the cleat behind this project.
You Stos, would you also like to make a career in rap?
Stos:
I would like and I will give myself the means above all.
It was not at all obvious because I had the click late.
Basically I was not in that, I was in video games, manga ... I was not in the delirium of making music and yet I have always been in it.
Seth Gueko do you encourage your son to get involved in music?
Seth Gueko:
A young boxer must train before his first fight.
To be on one of my projects it had to prove itself, it wouldn't have been fair to throw it away, expose it to people's criticism.
But when I felt it ready, I came on my own.
I'm doing a project with him because he's strong, whether he's my son or not.
This is the beginning, but he raps much better than me at his age.
And we don't make an album to be compared.
We do not make a clash, we do not play PSG-OM, we are players of the same team, we are the Salvadori.
How was this project born between you?
Seth Gueko:
After the release of
Like Father Like Son
where I did a little chorus and where I gave way to my son on a long verse.
People liked it, the only small remark there was "but why don't you sing more on Seth Gueko"?
I told myself that for the next album, we would do the opposite, him the chorus and I would sing more.
We wanted a clever balance and put forward its melodious side.
He knows how to approach music like I didn't know how to do it.
I reached my glass ceiling with my audience, with pure and hard rap.
To make your music a little more pop or mainstream, sometimes you have to add a little melody to the choruses.
And he's very good at it.
It is versatile, which I have not been able to do.
Stos:
In this project we see that we are complementary on all types of songs.
There are some where there is more melody and where I do more sung choruses, others are more rapped.
And in both cases it works well, it's a good combination.
And is the art of the punchline innate or is it acquired?
Stos:
I think it's both, it's innate but you have to work on it.
Seth Gueko:
I already had this young thing and that's what made me want to rap.
I have always known how to express myself and captivate people.
I was the youngest of the family, the clown, often it develops this fiber in large families when you are the youngest.
I sharpened it, I leave no one indifferent after my passage in a room.
It was in me.
And there it is hard to be in longevity, to be still strong 20 years later and to have bullshit to say.
They are a little more difficult to find today, it is sought through everyday culture.
Do you both have musical tastes?
Seth Gueko:
He makes me discover things and in general I like.
Lately he is very trendy drill and Nigerian music inspired by it.
Stos:
I listen to a lot of African sounds that have a vibe that I like, and a certain way of making songs.
Some children find their parents a little overwhelmed when it comes to musical tastes sometimes, could it have been your case Stos?
Stos:
No, he's up to date anyway.
It's true that he has trouble with certain songs because for him it's too important to rhyme.
Sometimes I listen to songs and he says "but how can you listen to a guy who rhymes like that?"
"
Seth Gueko
: Who doesn't rhyme.
If the guy does, I listen to him.
And for their part, some parents do not understand the musical tastes of their children, saying that "it was better before".
Was it your case?
Seth Gueko:
I tend to tell her that her generation doesn't worry too much about lyrics, but they break it somewhere else and I'm learning it.
I change my mind.
But I want it to last for him, I don't want it to be a fad.
I would be remiss if my son knew success for two years, tasted it and had the bread taken from his mouth.
It would hurt him and it's devastating.
I want him to make a career, and for that you have to mark your time with something you've never seen or heard.
I want him to have more strings to his bow.
He has to break his head on the lyrics.
He's my son and they'll always pick him up on that.
He will manage to last over time by making rich texts.
You assume a hardcore rap, very raw, you felt the need to explain this approach to your son?
Seth Gueko:
We're not going to say that being vulgar is in the family, but we're not ashamed to laugh at frank jokes of the collar.
We have no shame on that.
After that, I don't want my mother to hear the bullshit I put out, for me it's not the audience that is supposed to listen to that.
When there is vulgarity in my son's texts, but there is no poetry behind it, it bothers me.
If it's a play on words or a metaphor, I understand that he wanted to play with words, not hurt with some misogynist thing.
Afterwards, when you are a man, you play on the dog and cat side that there can be between women and men, the idea is not to lower the image of women, but to be funny.
After that makes some laugh and not others, sometimes people are not sensitive to rap.
If I say a joke from my texts on the terrace of a cafe and there are girlfriends, they will all burst out laughing because there is a way to bring it.
If you see a guy who plays tough, who is behind his microphone with a little anxiety-inducing music, you may wonder if he is laughing or not.
It was my struggle, to show that I am not a big, super violent, first degree super moron.
It's all about the image, it's artistic in fact, there is research.
It's not free, there's teasing humor but it's always shot with poetry.
This does not prevent some of your texts from being considered sexist, misogynistic.
Do you understand that that could have shocked?
Seth Gueko:
It bothers me to have run into women or that they could have misinterpreted the meaning of the message I wanted to give.
Me it's more of the frank camaraderie and the kidding.
I apologize to the women who may have suffered stuff from some people who misunderstood my music.Today I realize that all the writing finesse I have, 70% of my audience doesn't. has never understood himself.
There is research and some cannot see it.
You have to put it in context, it's playing with words.
It's suburban Desproges in fact.
But it's difficult to say that there is a second degree in rap, we went to the school of "street credibility", of pure and hard rap where we said to ourselves "they are real men. »… I was the guardian of the border between second degree rap and testosterone rap.
Do you regret some punchlines?
Seth Gueko:
Some are too old for me to remember, but all those written with humor I don't regret.
I'd just like to explain them to people who've been hit, telling them not to take it like that.
Everything is a story of interpretation.
Sometimes someone will send you a written message, you will take it badly when there just wasn't the proper punctuation.
If there is not enough theatricality or punctuation, sentences said for fun can be taken at face value, with the very hard side that my rap can have.
You turned 40 last year, no midlife crisis?
Seth Gueko:
We're afraid of losing what we have today.
But I had everything, I am getting closer to my children, I see more the importance of family ties today.
My son can perhaps tell himself that he has never felt so serene to me.
And I see him becoming a man, he wants to impose himself, to make his own decisions.
I have more maturity, I am more open-minded.
Has fatherhood changed the way you think about life?
Seth Gueko:
It was hard to have a very young child.
I got an apartment very quickly, I had to work but I relied on the fact that my mother took care of it a lot.
When I had other children from 33 years old, I understood the meaning of fatherhood, that it was very important to take good care of your child.
Afterwards, children of divorced people can become beautiful and very balanced people when they have the love of both parents.
But it's not a game, it's a life we have in our hands, it's responsibility.
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