Doses of the Pfizer-BioNTec vaccine, in Dijon, December 27, 2020 (illustration) -
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“With the vaccine, we remain contaminable and contaminating, but in addition we cannot be vaccinated if we have already had Covid-19!
», A surfer on Twitter alarmed.
To advance this assertion, he relies on an extract from an interview broadcast on BFMTV.
However, if the Haute Autorité de santé did consider that there was no need, at this stage, to "systematically vaccinate people who have already developed a symptomatic form [of] Covid-19", the latter can of course even be vaccinated, under certain conditions.
If the government has detailed the different phases of the vaccination campaign against Covid-19, giving priority to residents of accommodation facilities for dependent elderly people (Ehpad), it would have failed to specify a particularly important detail.
At least if we are to believe the tweet of an Internet user who affirms: "Basically, with the vaccine, we remain contaminated AND contaminant, but in addition we cannot be vaccinated if we have already had Covid-19!"
He is also surprised, video extract in support, that this information, given on BFMTV during the interview with Thierry Amouroux, spokesperson for the National Union of Nursing Professionals (SNPI) and himself a nurse, does not has not experienced more scope.
Seen on #BFM shortly before noon, no tweet from the channel on this hallucinatory passage from the spokesperson of the nursing union, Thierry Amouroux‼ ️
Basically with the #Vaccine we remain contaminable AND contaminants, but in addition we can not be vaccinated if we already had the # Covid_19‼ ️🤯 pic.twitter.com/UNxdzToRGf
- Lorentz mathias (@LorentzMathias) December 28, 2020
During his intervention on the channel, to evoke the "questions" of caregivers on the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine being deployed in France, Thierry Amouroux was however more nuanced: "We know that the vaccine is effective individually on the disease but we have no study on transmission.
However, if caregivers who are vaccinated become healthy carriers and nevertheless agents of contamination, that calls into question the entire altruistic dimension of vaccination.
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“The second aspect is that a lot of us got infected in the first wave or the second, and we have antibodies.
And the Haute Autorité de santé said that for now, you should not vaccinate if you already have antibodies.
So we are on hold, ”he concluded.
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The High Authority for Health (HAS) clearly indicated on December 18, in its "recommendations on the prioritization of target audiences", that there is no need, at this stage, "to systematically vaccinate people who have already developed a symptomatic form [of] Covid-19 ”.
“To date, the data do not allow us to know whether there is any benefit in vaccinating people who have already been infected with SARS-CoV-2.
On the other hand, the data available with an average follow-up of 3 months shows that there is no particular serious adverse effect when a person who has already had [the] Covid-19 is vaccinated ” , she reminded about this.
However, the HAS noted in the wake that people already infected with Covid-19 were free to be vaccinated if they wished.
But under certain conditions: “In accordance with the preliminary recommendations of November 30, [they] must be able to be vaccinated if they wish, following a decision shared with the doctor.
In this case, it then seems preferable to respect a minimum period of 3 months from the onset of symptoms.
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A nuance that the SNPI had itself underlined on its site, in an article on "the nursing analysis of the benefit / risk" of the vaccine against Covid-19.
"A nurse who contracted Covid-19 during the first wave can be vaccinated if he requests it"
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, the HAS explains this three-month period: “People with Covid-19 can suffer from a long form of the disease.
As we do not vaccinate during an infection and we cannot determine whether an affected person will contract a long form of the disease, this period of time seemed justified.
"" A nurse who contracted Covid-19 during the first wave can therefore be vaccinated if he so requests.
However, as for any person in the general population, he will need a pre-vaccination consultation with a doctor to check his history and possible allergies, ”confirms the HAS, which details on its site the points discussed during this examination.
As a reminder, the first phase of vaccination concerns, in addition to residents of nursing homes and long-term care units, health professionals working in these establishments "themselves presenting an increased risk of severe form / death (more than 65 years old and / or presence of vulnerability factors).
"Nursing staff aged 50 and over or presenting with comorbidity will be able to be vaccinated as of the second phase, and all caregivers" not previously vaccinated "regardless of age or state of health. of the third phase.
According to Thierry Amouroux, many nurses are now favoring a certain perspective on the vaccines to be deployed in the coming months, as he explains to
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: “The caregivers are not anti-vaccine at all, but they are rather in the idea of knowing more about the transmission of the virus, which is even what we seek above all in a vaccine, beyond its effectiveness on the disease.
With the influenza vaccination, we are in an altruistic logic to protect our fragile patients.
If for the Covid, we are in a vaccination that simply transforms into asymptomatic potentially contagious, that is a problem.
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"Knowing that there are 11 vaccines in phase 3, it seems useful to wait to see which are the most suitable against the transmission of the virus or for people who had already been infected with Covid-19", concludes the holder. word of the National Union of Nursing Professionals.
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