The British "Guardian" called Timothy Morton the prophet of the Anthropocene, the geological age on which man has irrevocably left his mark.

The legendary curator Hans Ulrich Obrist counts his books among the most important of our time, artists like Björk and Ólafur Elíasson work with him, and an Oscar winner wants to film his ideas.

Timothy Morton doesn't believe in scare tactics.

He wants to save the world, but not with the cargo bike, but with the Millennium Falcon from "Star Wars".

We meet via video call with Zoom.

WELT AM SONNTAG:

One of your books is called “Ecology without Nature”.

What do you have against nature?

Timothy Morton:

Yeah, that's strange for people.

You know, the hard thing is that we don't just live in a reality.

We have all kinds of fantasies about what reality is.

So that we can coexist with other forms of life, we have to say goodbye to our fixed ideas.

And that's why all previous revolutions have failed - they have not included the non-human beings.

Marx liked Darwin.

Why?

Because Darwin is about random mutations.

In other words, with Darwin there is no teleology, no goal.