The Hormiguero | Pedro Cavadas beats the Government and Fernando Simón

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Pedro Cavadas

neither bites his tongue nor has hair on it.

Last night in

it again.

When voices began to emerge in January warning of what might be to come (and that later came), many of them were labeled as alarmists.

While on the one hand we heard that the

was like a flu a bit stronger or that nothing was going to happen here, there was a doctor, a surgeon who said 'be careful, this is dangerous'.

It was Dr.

, now the scourge of the Government and the management of

But at the time an eminent surgeon who was accidentally asked about the coronavirus spoke up and they jumped on it.

Today he has gone from being the alarmist who predicted the worst pandemic to becoming almost the oracle of the

.

And what the oracle has predicted is not good.

Last night in

, hunger was combined with the desire to eat.

On the one hand,

, a guide to the worst of the

, and, on the other, Pablo Motos, one of the harshest presenters and visible faces of television, critical of the management of the pandemic.

It was clear that the government and

were going to emerge more than scared

from the expected interview

.

And boy did they come out!

"I don't know him, nor do I want to, nor does he know me, but the reality is what it is.

and twice. The result is bad is that whoever was in charge has done very badly. Who was in charge, I don't know, but the result is very bad. "

You can say higher, but not clearer.

has no doubt or desire to shut him up, Fernando Simón did it wrong, and point ball.

Although he warned that he is a surgeon and that he is obviously not a virologist - "epidemiology is not a specialty as such" -, as a doctor he knows something more than the rest of common mortals.

And if he does not speak as a doctor, he speaks as the person who saw that "when a country with transparency and clarity like China begins to say that everything is controlled, shit ...!".

But for

, no one of those who had to do it said that "hostias!"

I don't believe they didn't see it.

, but see the Rolex you have seen it.

"I don't think of myself as a fool, but I'm not the smartest guy in the world and it was obvious. Any guy would have said that if the little flame went there when the fire came ... Watch out. Everyone was late. Depending on whether they were there. Rolex or mushrooms. "

For

, Spain was either going for mushrooms or did not want to be at the Rolex.

"You can't play with this"

"There have been many laughable situations and it would be the case if it weren't for suffering and financial ruin. Everyone can play with whatever they want, but they are playing with my taxes and I want them to be used for the common good. But if we get there to the point of the masks they are not necessary, but then they are, but there were none, he is deceiving himself. I do not have political phobias and philias, but if you in your work do any of the things that were done (say the opposite and the opposite) that person is out and puts someone else who does know.

, but when we are suffering what is being suffered there must be good managers and in Spain there are them so that someone who really knows can take charge ".

Pedro Cavadas is clear about it, neither the Government knew nor knows what to do, nor should Fernando Simón continue where he is.

I don't think there is anything to explain what

said last night

.

He said it in January and since then he has repeated it many times.

He does not care about the political color, the side or where they come from - last night he repeated it over and over again - but for what he does not happen is to know that things have been done wrong and that he continues in the same line.

"What is not tolerable is that one day one thing is said, tomorrow the opposite and then everything was the opposite. And then we came out stronger ...

. No We have learned nothing, we have not come out better. Now after the pandemic we will have come out better, as a toast to the sun, well ... but it doesn't convince anyone. "

Pedro Cavadas was

returning to

after having to cancel many months ago and his visit after the death of one of his patients.

You don't recover from that, but you get up and go on because "life goes on and the following days you have scheduled surgeries that have their drama, and you have to continue."

rose from the death of the 10-year-old boy who had a tumor removed from his head and who, on his way home, died on the plane due to a massive hemorrhage from the mouth, according to the autopsy.

It was a hard blow for the surgeon, who for a time stayed away from the media, but it was at the press conference of that operation that

warned that what was happening in China was not a joke.

It certainly wasn't.

At that time no one believed him and many criticized him, now those many listen to him because what he warned has been fulfilled point by point.

Last night he made his prediction again, and what he predicted is no better than what he said in January.

"I don't want to personalize because anyone would have done it roughly the same.

. If you at your work or someone on the team does any of the things that were being done daily ... It is said One thing, after two minutes the opposite, 30 seconds later the opposite of the opposite ... it becomes prodigious ".

There is nothing more to add, Your Honor.

He only had to say, speaking badly and soon, to the fucking street.

Wouldn't it be great -even if they have no interest in meeting each other- to sit at a table face to face with

and

?

At the beginning the tension would be cut with a knife, but I am convinced that what would come out of that meeting would be a first step to mend the way.

"You cannot lie to the population. I do not understand that it is done. The reality is that it is metaphysically possible that there will be a tested vaccine, but well tested, in years. If we accept vaccine proposals as efficient vaccines, we will have to define who will he's going to eat the first 15 encephalitis caused by these vaccines. "

And

once again destroyed the house of cards.

The Government has announced that there will be a vaccine for the month of December.

It is the light at the end of the tunnel, it is the only hope there is right now, but for

these are nothing more than castles in the air.

Pedro Cavadas' worrying warning

"A

vaccine

means that we are starting to have a vaccine in a few years. If we want something safe, it will take a long time. If we want something fast, we will have to accept that adverse symptoms will appear. The reality is that a vaccine stops That is, being realistic, before a couple of years I do not believe it. "

A couple of years at least, because then, as he explained last night, we must add the entire manufacturing process, distribution ...

.

And we already get into four.

"Mask removal? Mask removal may be optional in two years."

I'm going to say it, his words scared me, they made a chill run down my entire spine.

We are talking about two years to remove the mask and four to have an effective vaccine -effective, understood as safe and useful-.

And he is saying it one of the first times he saw what was to come and he was not wrong one iota.

"Would you give your daughters the vaccine?"

asked him

.

"Which one? The sputnik or which one? The problem of vaccines is complex. The guy who announces the beginnings of the studies of a medication does so because countries are beginning to place millions of orders with trillions of dollars. So which of all the vaccines do we believe in? At the moment none is effective, that is, safe and useful. If I would give it to my daughters? They are hard as stones. I would give them but accepting a risk. The coronavirus will not give me it will kill, but encephalitis will do it and it will give reasons to the anti-vaccines. "

.

Fear because those who are managing the epidemic are convinced or, at least, they announce it, that in the month of December early January 2021 there will be a vaccine, but the reality is much more similar to what

explained last night

than at dream of a vaccine at Christmas.

It is clear that having a safe and useful vaccine in such a short time would be almost a miracle, and there are those who leave everything in the hands of miracles.

Maybe because we really need a miracle.

"Welcome to the real world!"

Because if something does not come to stop this, to solve this, to sentence the

the ship is going to end up sinking to the depths of the sea.

Pedro Cavadas is aware of the point of no return that can be reached, but believes that everything is a matter of "balance".

"If you give more importance to health, the economy deteriorates. If you give more importance to the economy, health deteriorates.

must find the balance. We no longer die of

, but now we We die of hunger. What if instead of changing stickers we call a technician to solve this? And there are technicians for it. I do not believe that there is not someone in Spain with a good enough curriculum to fix this. But without having to pay tolls, because if what you do is say what they tell you through the earpiece,

. "

"I do not see so difficult, with will, to constitute a prepared team.

. It is not possible that we have the worst numbers in the first wave, that we do not talk about the second wave, but the numbers have become to get out of control and we are the worst again. If we are that bad it is because something has been done very wrong. Okay, he has done it wrong, there is no need to subject him to public derision, well off. But bring someone to do it OK. This is a problem and requires technicians. "

So clear, but not so easy.

What

asks

has been done by some administrations, administrations that have looked for the best, that have given them the helm and that have taken less than a rooster crows to say goodbye, there you stay.

Because if having the vaccine in December is a castle in the air, I don't want to tell you about letting a technician manage without putting stones in his way.

Impossible.

It shouldn't be like that, it should be like

says

, letting the experts do their job because that's what they are the best for, but in the real world we all know which foot each one has a limp.

Perhaps in a world of rose color, where you can smell the clouds, what

asks

could be done.

In the real world, don't even expect it.

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