In the Nordic countries, where greater real equality exists, an opposite effect is being produced, labor segregation ... For decades, these countries have been pioneers in advancing towards gender equality and have clearly higher levels of parity than here. However, gender segregation in the labor market is still present, although it is decreasing, since it is difficult to break with traditional cultural patterns. Segregation occurs both vertically (men occupy more positions of power) and horizontally (women are occupied in certain sectors, such as the social sector, which are less well paid). What are the aspirations of the women who live in them ? The same as ours: to be able to develop their work, family, social and personal aspects in a balanced and co-responsible way with their partners without having to give up any of them. If these countries are taken as an example, could it be said then that there are no Hope for equality at all levels? They continue to be models, real equality is not quickly achieved as it costs to break with the cultural heritage that establishes the role of both men and women, and legislation helps to advance, but not always It is enough. Is it the woman who chooses a type of life that has little to do with the conquest of great levels of power? The main problem is that the field of care is not sufficient It is highly valued and does not have the place it should have in our society. As long as there is no universal, affordable and quality network of public care services, women will continue to be those who give up a job or a position of power to take care of children or the elderly and dependents. of a new glass ceiling self-imposed by women? Both women and men encounter cultural barriers. Young men also want to balance their professional and personal facets, but if laws like equal and non-transferable paternity leave are not in place they will find it difficult to express this desire in their workplace (not what is expected of Can this problem be resolved with legislation? Legislation is essential, as is the expansion of care services. The laws shape the established culture. In the Nordic countries, nurseries and universal residences have facilitated the incorporation of women into the labor market. Just as non-transferable paternity leave has led men to become involved in care and change their professional patterns throughout life, are these countries doing something to solve it? Are they focusing on policies directed at men , since it is not enough to facilitate women's access to the labor market. It is necessary to influence men, and if they also make a revolution, it will not be necessary for women to be the only ones who take leave and shorter working hours.What would the feminist struggle of many generations have been for? This struggle is long journey and it is important to highlight the progress that has taken place. Our life has nothing to do with that of our grandmothers. But it is a fight in which both women and men have to see the benefits for gender equality, for children and even for the economy. Businesses that facilitate parity and co-responsible reconciliation measures are more profitable and productive. Are there other models to follow? The Nordic countries are a clear inspiration, but sometimes innovation is everywhere, like organized family groups. to give support in the field of care. What is beginning to happen in the community and in the surroundings of proximity is very relevant. We must build more humane neighborhoods, with spaces to socialize care. Grandparents should not be one of the main strategies for conciliation. What would be the next goals? We have a long way to go to the Nordic countries. We lack universal care services such as nurseries or residences, equal and non-transferable maternity and paternity leave (luckily we are already making progress in this), highlighting (also at an economic level) professional sectors related to social and care, Rational, flexible and healthy work schedules, and perhaps move towards the 30-hour work week, in which both men and women can give rise to their personal, family, social and work facets.

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