"The solidarity that we see on the streets of cities around the world should give hope," he says, adding that he believes those who "lack the ability or the will to walk in a colored person's shoes" are in the minority.

In the interview, former Abba member Black compares Black Lives Matters with the metoo movement and believes that both are about looking at their fellow human beings as equals. He denounces Black Lives Matter, which protests against police violence and racism, he condemns:

"The world is full of idiots," says Ulvaeus.