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"Nothing shakes me anymore. Those who have to be trembling are the favorites. Those are the ones who play it." Antonio Banderas makes it clear from the first question. Joaquin Phoenix's favoritism with Oscar as best actor for his role in Joker is so overwhelming that Malaga does not bother to hide it. "It's vox populi . In fact, I think he already has the Oscar at home," he lets loose the laughter of the journalists present at the Mondrian Hotel in Los Angeles .

His few options do not hide the immense pride he feels for the achievement with his role in Pain and Glory , the second Spanish actor to achieve it after Javier Bardem and his first nomination after several decades of relationship with Hollywood . In the event that he managed to surprise, he would be the second in the history of the gala to take him making a film in a language other than English.

"But they won't give it to me," he insists. "If there was an option, I would play with it, but Joaquin takes it shamelessly." Of course, remember that he has achieved the nomination with a small film and in Spanish, and that they have left as important people as Robert de Niro , Christian Bale or Taron Egerton , winner of a Golden Globe this year for Rocketman . "The nomination was a huge and wonderful surprise," he says, in addition to having achieved it after leaving Hollywood, "when I am no longer part of this culture."

It also represents a kind of claim against those who doubted his talent. "I don't feel the need to show things," he says. "This year for that it has been incredible, and I have in my house a lot of new scrap that proves it", in relation to the awards that have been taken by the Almodóvar film. "I've lost some anxiety about success, which is probably the greatest enemy of many. That's where people get stuck and things close. I live more calmly, many things have been accomplished. I'm in a very good time." .

"You can't go further"

What he doesn't know is if he can repeat the deed. "People ask me a lot," he admits. "I do not know. It will depend on the characters. They tell me that I spend a lot with the characters. And he will win an uncle who has passed four villages. You can not go further." He says about the work of Phoenix.

The other three in liza will be Adam Driver , Jonathan Pryce and Leonardo DiCaprio , a completely white category although some in Hollywood have insisted on hanging Banderas the label of "color actor". Like his victory options, Malaga also takes it with humor. "In my land of Malaga we have been invaded by Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Greeks, three centuries of Roman domination with two Andalusian Caesars, then came the Arabs, the Goths. I know who my great-grandmother has slept with? I take it with fun. "

Of course, he says that the push for greater diversity in the Academy is not something aesthetic but real. "1,500 new foreign members are many members", which can open a lot of votes and generate surprises. "They are expanding because they want to turn the Oscars into world awards."

Ahead, his theater company and a possibility to make history on Broadway with a play in Spanish. It would be in the same theater where A Chorus Line was presented for the first time in 1975. "I really want to do things, without stopping." It is hard to believe that he is about to turn 60. It goes through one of the moments of his life.

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