The first time I spoke with Andoni Ortuzar was on the occasion of an interview in August 2012 in Bilbao. He was very kind. When I thanked him for making a hole in the middle of summer, he explained that he was spending a few days in a nearby coastal town, in Vizcaya, and that that was the good thing about the Basques who love their country: that even on vacation they can always return to work because summer "in Euskadi". I remember it well because the following summer the news came out that I ñigo Urkullu was told
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