The Minister of Inclusion, Social Security and Migration, José Luis Escrivá (Albacete, 1960) receives EL MUNDO in his new work area where he has no office.

He sits in a large room with his senior officials, considering it more operational, and goes to another adjoining room in case of need for confidential conversations.

This interview is granted in the week in which the monthly bill for pensions exceeds 10,000 million for the first time.

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