At the microphone of Europe 1, the sociologist Michel Wieviorka considered that Laurent Berger, boss of the CFDT, was right to be indignant after the declarations of the boss of the Medef, who wants an extension of the working time at the end of the coronavirus health crisis. Michel Wieviorka explains why the statements of Geoffroy Roux de Bézieux are, according to him, "unilateral".

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In recent days, the Medef and the right wing of the majority have started to install in the public debate the idea that it would be necessary to work longer after the confinement to compensate for the efforts made during the health crisis linked to the coronavirus. Geoffroy Roux de Bézieux, boss of Medef, had said that "sooner or later we will have to ask ourselves the question of working time, public holidays and paid vacation to accompany the economic recovery and facilitate, by working a little more, creating additional growth. " Comments that scandalized Laurent Berger, leader of the CFDT

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"Unilateral declarations"

Guest of Europe 1, Michel Wieviorka, sociologist and director of the Maison des sciences de l'Homme Foundation, supported the boss of the reformist center on Monday. For him, the statements of Geoffroy Roux de Bézieux have a "unilateral" aspect. Like those of the Secretary of State for the Economy, Agnès Pannier-Runacher, who declared that it would be "probably working more than we have done before" to "make up" for the loss of activity.

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"It is a mistake to keep the intermediate bodies aside"

"There is no contradiction on the issue, everyone wants growth and full employment. The question is how it is prepared," said Michel Wievorka. According to him, Laurent Berger "reason to be indignant". "These kinds of statements are prepared and discussed. The discussion must not be unilateral. It is a mistake to keep the intermediate bodies aside," said the sociologist.

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But above all, beyond working longer, it is the lack of details that is problematic in the discourse of Medef and Agnès Pannier-Runacher, continues Michel Wievorka. "Before telling everyone that there will be sweat and tears, you have to state the conditions," he said. "These statements tell us nothing about the professions that are already sacrificed at work." "What will be done for supermarket cashiers and all these people?" Wonders Michel Wievorka.

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"We are not at all in Churchillian times"

The sociologist also returns the ball to the employers. "We would like to know what the efforts will be on the side of the shareholders," he said at the microphone of Europe 1. "Tears and sweat, yes, but for everyone!", Says Michel Wievorka, who does do not hesitate to criticize the elements of language used in preparation for Emmanuel Macron's speech on Monday evening. "We are not at all in Churchillian times. Society is not one body behind the state and the government," he explains. "If we want there to be trust, there must be debate, exchange and the definition of a common vision", concludes the sociologist.