If Donald Trump returns to the White House, NATO's promise of protection will collapse.
His mafia-like method sparks hectic debates in Europe about its own nuclear weapons.
But even more pressing is the question of how much Germany and its allies are willing to pay for their own security.
Especially given the threat from Russia.
“We lack the money that we spend now and in the future on our security elsewhere,” admits Chancellor Olaf Scholz, but says: “Without security, everything else is nothing.” In doing so, he points to a massive distribution conflict that the Government still has no answers.
SPIEGEL editor Marina Kormbaki observed the Chancellor during his state visit to Washington, at the security conference in Munich and while posing with military equipment in Unterlüß.
In the podcast she reports on how the “turning point” is changing not only budget planning, but also the relationship between politics and the arms industry.
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