How do you propose this campaign in the PSOE? We are going with everything to attract the social majority of democrats with social convictions in Madrid who are looking for politicians who do not insult or attack every day. That's where I'm at, many tell me that I'm the only one who doesn't insult the rest. Well even so, the polls keep him behind Más Madrid.The May polls do give us seconds, but we still have to wait for the electoral result.What happens to the PSOE with Madrid that goes for 30 years without touching power? We won the last general elections and the last ordinary regional elections too, we governed in eight of the ten large cities for two million people and four years ago there was a progressive mayor in the city, but the currency has always fallen on the side of the PP. In 2003 it was the tamayazo, in 2015 the division of the communist left and now we will see. For that majority to be parliamentary, an exciting project must be offered. And I am self-critical because I believe that the PSOE has not understood in recent decades the change and dynamism that Madrid demanded. The region has had in three consecutive elections Angel Gabilondo as a candidate, which is a very ambitious bet, and won some elections and stayed in others one seat away from being president. Obviously now is another time and a relay was needed that has been given. We'll see what happens, but I think people are now fed up with Ayuso's national obsession and tension. Every week is a victory for the way I approach policy. His campaign has a good national focus with the landing of ministers and the president. Can it hurt you if you generate rejection? The Government of Spain won the general and the last regional elections in Madrid, that is a reality as in 2021 Ayuso won. I believe that economic and social policies are bearing very good fruit for pensioners, students, young people, women... The increase in the minimum wage, the labor reform or pensions add to the quality of life of the people of Madrid. We must also value the attrition as the pact with Bildu or the reform of sedition. All governments have wear and tear, including Ayuso's, and I think there are three years without budgets or a million people on waiting lists in Health. The citizens will take that into account, but for the vote to change it is not about insulting, which I also know, but I do not want to. For that there has to be enthusiasm, a serious project with professionals at the forefront and policies that benefit citizens such as those of the Government of Spain. How could we imagine that in an electoral campaign the PP was not talking about the economy? Well, for something it will be. On Thursday it was announced that Madrid's GDP had grown at 3.9% compared to 3.8% España.Si the country's locomotive has a youth unemployment of 32%, above the average, and has risen five points in the last year, while the rest of Spain falls, there is a problem. I ask him about the GDP figure. It is that Madrid should be the locomotive of the country, not go 0.1 ahead. We are not here to win leagues, we have to win the Champions League and Ayuso resigns. Since we are in the economic. Why do you propose a tax reform with the lowest income tax rate of all socialist communities? My tax reform aims to raise $900 million more to fund excellent public services in the U.S.It does so by applying tax relief to the broad middle classes in Madrid and solving the problem that those who earn 55,000 pay the same taxes as those who earn 300,000. That is defended by Ayuso and Mónica García. We defend progressivity, that from € 78,000 you pay half a point more and from € 150,000 another additional point. Faced with the regressive model of the PP and Más Madrid that does not bet that who has more, contributes more to the public service.Do you consider that earning 78,000 euros is middle class? We put the limit there for the climb. Well, their ratios contrast quite a bit with those raised by Moncloa.Es evident that the standard of living and income in Madrid is different from the rest of the country, our middle classes are at another level than in Murcia or Extremadura. The Government has to regulate for the whole country and we for Madrid and, unlike PP and Más Madrid, we increase progressivity. Well, from his left they will say that he is doing fiscal dumping I do not think that Más Madrid will do it, which proposes to lower taxes more than I do to the rich. The lists of Bildu have entered fully into this campaign. Do you understand that it harms you by colluding with your party? The PP always does the same in the electoral campaign, when I ran for mayor they made a mailbox saying that I was the friend of ETA and De Juana Chaos. I am already cured of fright. To be thinking about a terrorist group with which we Spaniards ended 12 years ago, instead of thinking about the next 12 is a mistake. I, of course, am in the next 12 years.How do you rate the position of Bildu? Regrettable, shameful and I would almost say a provocation.Have the government and the president put themselves in profile? In profile, no. There was a blunt statement from the president saying that he found it an embarrassment and a lack of ethics. The same as me. But he has not ruled out continuing to agree with them. I don't think there is any pact with Bildu. Of course, none of investiture. Another thing is what [Javier] Maroto did that the PP has hidden from him. In this country something as important as European funds with Vox has been approved and nobody proposes that he has a secret pact with Pedro Sánchez. As with the PP. Which Bildu votes in Parliament? Of course, like the rest of the groups, but he did not support the investiture to Sánchez.Pero several Budgets or is fundamental in laws such as Housing.Vox also made European funds approved and we have nothing to thank because there is no pact. I am in favour of complying with the law, which is what it is for. That law belongs to Aznar and I understand that he would do it to protect democracy and the general interest. Laws can be changed. That is what Parliament is for, and anyone who wants to change it should present it. I think Feijóo has not announced it, quite the contrary. I am not at the national level and I do not think it is for me to comment on that. What I am saying is that democracy must be protected and provocations and disrespect do not help. And that I think is what Bildu has done.How important are mayors in their electoral aspiration? They are the example that the management of the PSOE works in Madrid and that supports us for what we want to do at the regional level and electorally the weight of those millions of inhabitants is evident. They are a boost to the vote. In 2021 the PP swept many of those mUnicipios in the autonomic. Without municipal elections and at a unique moment in history with the pandemic. I have analyzed that result a lot, but in 2019 in those municipalities there was an abysmal difference with the PP. In 2021 Ayuso knew how to read the saturation and the tiredness and focus it on a path that I would never have taken, not even with the certainty of electoral success. Because I understand that above are the dignity, values and health of people.And what was wrong with the PSOE? It is that in 2019 the decision was already made that they were the last elections of Gabilondo as a candidate and in 2021 elections were called when the relay was going to occur. That made the campaign very complicated because there was an important handicap.Do you fear that this relay will be affected by the electoral result? I have made a strategic decision and it is a bet for the next 10 or 15 years, it is the only way to be taken seriously in Madrid. And that is clear in the party. Can you guarantee that it will continue if it obtains a bad result after 28-M?I am running for president already because there is that majority of Democrats with social convictions. And at the same time I say that the decision of the PSOE is for the next 10 or 15 years. I am against capping rental prices and I am glad that it has not been introduced in the Housing Law as proposed by Más Madrid, Podemos and the entire communist environment. I agree with the transitional measures to control increases in stressed areas. But I go further. I commit from minute one to reduce the rent to young people and families with incomes up to 35,000 euros. It is enough to promise so much, you have to wake up. Ayuso has promised 15,000 homes three times and zero have been delivered. You will see how with my measure we wake up and fulfill the commitment faster. President Sánchez is above 100,000 that in the short term do not seem possible. That is why a law is approved so that temporarily that can be done and I in Madrid propose the discount of 300 euros. You will see how we are faster in building the house, which we all agree should be done. Some jurists warn that the rule may encourage squatting. Is that a problem? The squatting is fixed with the amendment of the PSOE to throw out the squatters in 48 hours, I am radically in favor of that. Is squatting a problem in Spain and in this city? The data doesn't say that. At a statistical level, squatting is anecdotal, but it is a drama for the family that suffers it because I know close cases. I think it is a shame that private property is squatted and that some parties understand that it is a way of solving a social problem. The social problem is solved with social aid. In the debate you compared the Formula 1 project with Eurovegas.No, I am against Madrid not having an aspiration, that we settle for being the 32nd region of Europe. That's what Ayuso does, who is talking about Spain all day. Formula One is not the priority of the next ten years in Madrid, it is innovation, entrepreneurship or biotechnology. Whoever believes in that future, here I am.Would you stop the project? I would not stop it if we are presented with an initiative that does not generate negative externalities. All this bet seems to me a mistake like Eurovegas.Does Madrid have a problem with the Cercanías? Such is the problem that three billion have been invested.e year. But what there has been is an abandonment for five years of the PP Government although I would have liked the Government's investment to have started earlier. I understand the pandemic and the war, but it should have started earlier and for that I apologize to the millions of Madrilenians who use the Cercanías daily who also now suffer all the changes in the railway system due to the works. What I am glad is that from January of next year these problems will be resolved.What is your opinion of Yolanda Díaz's Sumar project? It is a different political space because Yolanda Díaz, on the last day I checked it, was a militant of the PCE and her right hand general secretary, like Más Madrid and Podemos are from that ideological family, said in a neutral tone. In Spanish society there is a lot of European social democrats and then that other family. Mónica García has been more years deputy of Podemos than of Más Madrid like a large part of its leaders. From Moncloa it seems that he is being given wings for a future coalition governmentI have not seen Pedro Sánchez in any meeting of Yolanda Díaz.Why is he looking to mark his own profile with the PSOE in Madrid? I am my own profile, I am not looking for anything, I have a personality just like the PSOE in Madrid, which is an important party for the PSOE and for Spain. We are a federal party and we need each region to have its own personality to contribute to the country's project. That is why we resemble Spain.Have you renounced for years that own profile in Madrid? I don't know, but I think it's vital that we have it. The Central Electoral Board has accused the minister spokesman, of the PSOE, of doing electoralism in the Councils of Ministers. When there is comment. You can comment if you consider that a partisan use is being made by announcing measures in PSOE rallies prior to the Council of MinistersThe Government has eight months left in the legislature and must continue legislating. If they didn't, it would seem that they don't do anything anymore. Better to work.Even if it means mixing party and government? Legislation is taken and decisions are taken in the Councils of Ministers and I am proud of the increase in pensions, the scholarship system or the minimum wage. Making government decisions I do not think is making a partisan use, it is the job of governing.

IN SHORT

1. Do you have any amulets or rituals for 28-M?

A keychain that my daughter Sara gave me with her name a few months ago.

2. A song to cheer yourself up.

Any of Bruce Springsteen. I would say 'Born to run'

3. An electoral rival to have a beer.

Feijóo to cheer up a little, come.

4. There is no beach here, but there is...

Everything else

5. And come on, to put a but: what would you change?

The traffic jams, which unlike Ayuso I do not like at all.

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