Europe 1 with AFP 06:58, December 22, 2022

During an interview with several media, Emmanuel Macron estimated that Ukraine's entry into NATO would be experienced by Russia as a confrontation.

Emmanuel Macron also insisted on the need to grant "security guarantees" to Ukraine but also to Russia at the end of the conflict.

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French President Emmanuel Macron believes that Ukraine's entry into NATO would be experienced by Russia as a confrontation and that it is not the "most likely scenario", in an interview with several media.

"The entry of Ukraine into NATO would be perceived by Russia as something confrontational. It is not with this Russia that you can imagine," he told the daily newspapers on Wednesday. French

Le Monde

, American

Wall Street Journal

and Lebanese

An Nahar

.

"Whether or not Ukraine joins NATO - and this is not the most likely scenario - it will have to be given security guarantees that are all the more robust since it has been attacked by Russia", continues -he.

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More strategic autonomy in Europe, less dependence on the United States

Emmanuel Macron insists on the need to grant "security guarantees" to Ukraine but also to Russia at the end of the Ukrainian conflict, a position which has earned him strong criticism in kyiv and in Eastern Europe.

"In the end, we will have to put everyone around the table. And so all the Europeans and Westerners who give me moral lessons explain to me who they will be sitting around the table with," he said. he throws.

"I don't want it to be the Chinese and the Turks alone who negotiate the next day," he said, referring in particular to the mediation efforts of Turkish diplomacy.

The French president also again pleaded for the strategic autonomy of Europe, within NATO, but with less dependence on the United States.

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"There is no European security architecture without strategic autonomy, in NATO and with NATO, but not depending on NATO", he underlined.

"An alliance is not something I depend on, it's something I choose (...) We must rethink our strategic autonomy," he insisted.

"Europe must gain in technological autonomy, capacity, including in relation to the United States", hammered the French president.