Fernando López Miras: "Sánchez wants the Communities to kill each other for water"

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The president of

leads the territorial revolt against the cut of more than 40% of the water transferred from the

.

The approval given last week by the

to this "hack blow" has given the last straw to a fundamental part of the economy in his region, which is why Fernando López Miras announces that he will demonstrate himself against the

, as he already did against the government of his own party in 2017. 20% of Murcian GDP is at stake.

Do you think that Pedro Sánchez wants to definitively close the Tajo-Segura transfer? He himself stated it in 2018 in Albacete, during the electoral campaign.

He said that he would put an end to the transfers and, curiously, he only attacks one, the one that affects the Region of Murcia and the Spanish Levante.

There are 42 transfers in Spain, but Sánchez is only bothered by the Tagus-Segura. Do you think that the imminence of the elections has had an influence? It worries me to think that the future of hundreds of thousands of Spaniards from Levante are at the mercy of the electoral calculator of Sánchez, but what has happened in the last week makes me think that everything is a political question.

The disdain shown to Murcia, Almería and Alicante is terrifying.

No one has yet shown any technical or scientific document that justifies the blow he wants to give us.

The government has fooled everyone.

What consequences will the cut in the transfer have for Murcia? The reduction proposed by the Government will be catastrophic for the Region and the rest of Levante.

According to a report by the Segura Hydrographic Confederation, dependent on the Ministry, the hacking of the transfer will mean 122 million euros less per year for our economy and the loss of 12,000 hectares of crops.

Other studies, such as that of the Alicante Provincial Council, speak of almost 200 million.

These are the data from the Ministry, but keep in mind that the transfer waters 70% of the fruit and vegetables that Spain exports, which represent 20,000 million euros, and that the agri-food sector in Murcia represents more than 20% of the regional GDP, which represents 6,500 million euros. How many jobs do you estimate will be lost? The report I was talking about estimates a loss of 5.

000 direct jobs but there are other reports, for example from the University of Murcia, which raises the figure to 21,500 jobs in the agricultural sector alone.

To these should be added all those of other associated sectors such as transport, taking into account that the Region of Murcia has the main refrigerated transport fleet by road in Europe.

In short, Sánchez's plans with the transfer are putting the future of more than 100,000 families at risk. Why can't transferred water be replaced by desalinated water? We are not against desalinated water, not at all, but not for agriculture is an alternative.

The desalination process is highly polluting, the water is of no use, it is of lower quality and requires mixing it with water from the transfer or from the subsoil.

At an ecological level,

The transfer waters 55 million trees, which is a real CO2 sink (they consume CO2 equivalent to a population of 300,000 inhabitants) and a barrier to desertification that is advancing from North Africa to South Europe.

There is also the price: right now a cubic meter of desalinated water is worth 1.20 euros compared to 0.20 euros for transfer water.

It is therefore economically unfeasible. Not even in the long term? With the technology that exists right now in the world, it is not a possibility. Has the water war already been won by Emiliano García-Page? Here the losers are the Spanish by not having a State plan that guarantees water for everyone under the same conditions.

Who has the constitutional obligation to plan the distribution of water is the central government.

And ignores.

He only understands it from the ideological and partisan point of view.

The person responsible for this attack on Murcia is Sánchez.

He is the only one to blame for the ordeal we are going through.

The water belongs to all Spaniards, not to the territories through which the rivers pass.

And all Spaniards have the same right to access water under the same conditions. Have you asked the president for an urgent meeting? More than ten times.

They make us beg for what corresponds to us in justice.

He is attacking an essential sector not only for Murcia, but for all of Spain.

Or who do you think guaranteed the supply of our country and half of Europe when we were locked up at home because of the pandemic? Do you consider Ximo Puig as an ally, lost?

after listening to him defend the cut because at least the transfer is maintained? Sánchez is very comfortable letting all the territories face each other.

He wants us to kill ourselves in the water, and I'm not going to play that game.

To me, any cut to the Transfer seems inadmissible.

Anyone who has liked a "minor" cut will have to explain it.

I am surprised that some people were much more active in defense of the transfer when the PP governed.

It seems wrong to me that whoever, from whatever party, does not defend the transfer against the ax blow. Are you referring to those who do not defend the transfer from the PP? The PP has always been clear that national hydrological planning was necessary.

Aznar did it with the National Hydrological Plan and Rajoy did it with the Tajo-Segura regulations.

The PP is the same as always. So,

Why has Feijóo not said a word against this cut and talks about a plan for each basin to optimize its water? From what I have spoken with him, he is very clear that water requires a national plan. But he does not He speaks of transfers, but rather of strengthening the reservoirs. It is evident that a National Hydrological Plan that guarantees water to all cannot do without the resources that currently exist.

Reservoirs, dams, desalination as a complement to tourism and urban planning... and the water from the transfer, which is irreplaceable.

The Segura basin has a deficit of 400 cubic hectometres per year.

This is supported by technical reports.

Talking about the self-sufficiency of the Segura basin, as the PSOE does, is impossible and we cannot admit it. Are you going to demonstrate before the headquarters of the Ministry of Ecological Transition,

next to the irrigators? Of course yes.

I did it in 2017 when the PP governed and if the irrigators ask me, I will accompany them.

Of course I'm going to do it, but the ones who have to lead it are them. Is there a legal route to denounce the transfer in court?

There are already seven sentences against... What the Supreme Court says is that ecological flows must be set, it is not talking about increasing them.

And that is done through hydrological planning, which is conspicuous by its absence in this case where what the Government wants to apply is only ideological planning.

Why is it necessary to increase the flow of the Tagus to seven cubic meters per second and not 10?

It is a political decision that is not based on anything that justifies it. Climate change accentuates droughts.

Do you really believe that there is and will be water for everyone? Of course there is.

In Spain there is water for everyone,

You just have to plan the distribution and Sánchez does not want to, he only watches over ideological and partisan interests.

I also tell you that in Murcia we treat and reuse 99% of urban water and we get more than 100 cubic hectometres.

In Spain around 5% is purified.

If we applied the reuse model in my region, we would go a long way. Why hasn't Juanma Moreno joined the celebration of a water summit with you and the leader of the Valencian PP, Carlos Mazón? I'm not going to speak for anyone , but I tell you that the coincidence with Moreno on this issue is total. The rest of the news is no less inflamed.

Are we already in a "constitutional crisis", as Aznar says? I feel identified with Aznar's words, yes.

It is an unprecedented crisis.

Sánchez's roadmap affects pillars of the Rule of Law that he had never before dared to change and question without consensus between the two main parties.

Lines are being crossed that no one has dared to cross in 40 years.

Sánchez has exceeded the limit of responsibility of any leader.

Beyond parliamentary arithmetic, there is an ethical and moral responsibility with the Spanish and with the position, and that does not exist in the decisions that the Government is making, which approves measures with the heirs of ETA and the Catalan separatists. Is it in danger? Is the architecture of 78 real?

Do you think there is a change in the model under way? The legal and constitutional springs are solid, but they are going to try to collapse them. Is the Feijóo effect deflating? There is no decrease in the Feijóo effect.

The polls oscillate by specific moods, but all agree that the PP is going to win the elections.

I don't like to talk about effect: the solvency, rigor and work of Feijóo make up a consolidated trend, not an effect.

Most of it will be growing.

We need lone governments of the PP. So, his plan is for Feijóo to add one more seat than PSOE, UP, ERC and Bildu, at least, so as not to have to govern alongside Vox. If that happens, it is more than evident that there will be a Solitary government of the PP.

If the left does not reach an absolute majority, it must form the Feijóo Government. How do you see the Cs crisis? The only thing I can talk about is my experience: I governed with them and, in the third wave, when there were more deaths, Cs and PSOE presented an immoral motion of censure, simply to occupy the seats of a Government.

Would you file Arrimadas and Villacís, if you could, for the PP? My opinion on this is not transcendental.

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