"We inevitably become an old fool," says Laurent Ruquier

• Yesterday, today, tomorrow

  , new program by Laurent Ruquier, is launched this Tuesday, at 9:10 p.m., on France 2.

• Born out of the host's "frustration" at not dealing with archival footage on news subjects in

  Les enfants de la télé

  , this new concept brings together guests around a table to have them discuss the facts of society contextualized by archive images.

• The aim of the program is to put the different eras into perspective… “Because of nostalgia, it is often difficult to realize that now it's not so bad”, confides Laurent Ruquier to

  20 Minutes.

D-Day for

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Laurent Ruquier launches this Tuesday at 9:10 p.m. his new program on France 2. In this program co-produced with Thierry Ardisson, who comments on archival tape recorders, the host opens the debate on four social phenomena making the news.

In this case: telecrochets, the World Cup, prostitution and the dreams of teenagers.

How were these topics discussed yesterday?

The televiewers will know it thanks to the images of the INA (National institute of audio-visual).

Several personalities will then be gathered on the set of the show to discuss it.

Laurent Ruquier thus returns to the first part of the evening on the second channel after having left the second part of the evening of Saturdays to Léa Salamé, alone at the controls of

"I have no regrets or remorse", insists the presenter, who confided in

.

How did you come up with the idea for the format of

It was born out of a little frustration… I do

[broadcast every Sunday at 6:35 p.m. on France 2] where we dive a lot into images of the past but only from the angle of entertainment and in front of guests for whom we are essentially looking for "pans".

I said to myself: “If only we could also do it for the news, it could be interesting.

Moreover, the television news does not hesitate from time to time to resort to images of the past to comment on those of today.

But, of course, they can't do that for forty minutes.

This is the very principle of the show, we use INA images to see what the French were saying at the time,

Why is it important to go back in time to analyze the facts that mark society today?

First, because it is sometimes surprising.

It is clear that there are subjects on which opinions have changed a lot and others not.

There are immutable anxieties.

For example, I was interested in going to see the musical

last week… We see, seeing what [Michel] Berger and [Luc] Plamondon did forty years ago, that the subjects and the anxieties of today were already those of yesterday.

Maybe they were a bit visionary...

Is this your own way of dealing with certain movements, particularly in the United States, which would like to hide the past?

Yes.

I'm not going to tell you that I'm a big fan of today's society with all that can be said about digital society, speech that has become a little freer and sometimes too much... I think that inevitably we become an old fart and we always think that it was better before.

But it's not so sure… Because of nostalgia, it's often hard to realize that now, it's not so bad.

And it was not necessarily better at another time even if there were undoubtedly decades more favorable to youth or artistic creation for example.

The program will be presented and produced in tandem with Thierry Ardisson.

He confided in February 2022 that he shared with you a “lunch of reconciliation”.

Was this the starting point of this collaboration?

Not really.

We never got angry with Thierry.

We always had lunch together once or twice a year.

But we hadn't worked together for a while.

Although, he came to Les

for a few shows several years ago – I also dream of him coming back.

He's a bit like me sometimes, making sweeping statements.

I never held it against him.

He is someone to whom I owe a lot.

I have great loyalty in this profession, when it does not exceed certain limits.

However, when you launched

Things are much simpler than that and Thierry understood it himself.

I could not fire Catherine Barma as a producer to find myself on Saturday evening in the same box being produced by Thierry Ardisson… I already have problems [he was sentenced in June to pay 780,340 euros to Catherine Barma, decision he appealed] so imagine what it would have been like.

It's not that I refused, it's that it was impossible.

You said recently "to be spoiled enough on TV to be able to leave when things are not going well", is your return to a second program on France 2, a few months after your withdrawal from

Yes.

I consider myself lucky, I have no regrets or remorse.

We managed to hold a box for seventeen years… I'm not going to complain about what television has given me.

Not to mention that for eight years I did a daily with

, as well as

for three years... I'm lucky to have had three big television successes which, I think, made an impression.

I never felt like the owner of a box so if I feel that people want me less, I leave it willingly.

Should we deduce that this square is not missing?

At all !

(

) Television and artistic life is full of twists and turns and I have so much joy with the artists I produce that I consider myself to be very spoiled.

It's not one show less or more that changes much for me...

The duet presentation did not suit you.

You find yourself again alone to animate this new program.

Does that satisfy you?

Yes of course.

I think it's always easier to host a show alone.

All the more for

because we were just live.

In this context, there is one important thing to manage, and that is time.

Together it's very difficult to do, we are inevitably frustrated because we work a lot, we can only use 10 to 20% of what we have prepared.

It was true for me as it was for Léa.

So yes, I definitely prefer to animate alone.

This has never stopped me from sharing on my shows.

I have always put forward many artists who have today become leaders in their field.

The latest is precisely Philippe Caverivière who continues today with Léa but I am proud to have been the first to put it on television, beyond his role as author.

You are approaching 60.

Your entire career has highlighted these young artists.

Don't you think that a new generation of presenters could also take over?

There are.

In recent years we have seen the arrival of Cyril Féraud on the public service, Cyril Hanouna on C8, Camille Combal on TF1... But it's true that the whole difficulty is to last, to use Michel Drucker's phrase which is good older than me [he is 80 years old].

Animators who appear, there are some, but few remain.

Is there a secret for that?

The recipe is to make the audience.

But as TV attracts fewer and fewer viewers, it's more and more difficult.

We know that it's a medium that has aged and I'm not sure that young people watch it that much.

Will a young animator necessarily satisfy the viewer whose average age is higher?

It is not so simple.

There has always been room for old and new but I think it's more difficult today than it was in another era.

So it's normal that, from time to time, the chains rely on safe values ​​even if I admit that it's not very modest...

So what qualities should the animator of tomorrow have?

It's not easy to say.

Me, I got out of it through hard work and I hope that's what pays off above all else.

Sometimes, there is also knowing how to attend the lunches that you have to, but I've never practiced like that, maybe that's also why I sometimes had some setbacks (

).

I'm not one to be friends with managers.

If they take me, it's for my talent, not for my address book.

Above all, I would like us to be able to convince with new concepts, which is never easy and we can clearly see that we have a tendency to go around in circles…

A new format, so that's what you're going to try to install tonight...

Absolutely.

The advantage of this show is that at least we will try to offer something new.

I was there yesterday, I'm here today and maybe I'll still be here tomorrow (

).

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