Become one of the great villains of fiction after 'Vis a Vis' and 'La casa de papel', Najwa Nimri now gets into the skin of a mother capable of anything for her son in 'Sagrada Familia', which premieres on October 14 on Netflix.

You play Gloria, a mother who seems conventional, but then she is not. She is a mother who decides to be a womb.

Once she has given birth to a child that she has agreed that she would give birth to, she does not find the strength and wants to continue with the child and not break the bond. The series also portrays that world of appearances where everything has to pretend to be perfect. They have to pretend a lot, especially when what you hide is that you would be capable of anything or go quite far. Your partner Alba Flores used to say that mothers give us all their love, but also poison.

Are there many toxic mothers? Being a mother is part of both.

You give your best and I suppose some of your worst too. They are also the most demanding judges.

You claimed that your mother didn't understand why everyone says you're such a good actress. She still sees me as if I were wearing costumes.

I put on so many things that she doesn't understand it. And how do you act as a mother: are you a helicopter, one of those that are always on top, or a kite, one of those that lets you fly? I've been a helicopter and now I'm a kite. You left your profession to spend six years taking care of your son.

Did motherhood take its toll on you at work? Yes, I guess.

It took its toll on me, but it was also a blessing.

I was not suffering the time I was with my son.

I suffered economically. Is there a lot of hypocrisy in the huddles outside the school? I never go to those huddles.

That's why I wanted to do this particular series so much.

I am not facing that moment.

I raise the child but cliques are not something I'm good at. Legend has it that at 50 actresses stop receiving roles, but you're at your best.

What's changing? Hormones, I guess.

An actress has to show her guts, how do you do it? You have to be brave and not be afraid to confront yourself and get into areas that are not always pleasant.

The perception that others have of you has a lot to do with the roles you play.

What advice would you give to that Najwa who started with 'Jump to the void' with Calparsoro?That she learn to save.And what annoys you the most in a casting?I don't do many now because they call me to play the roles.

But what bothers me the most is when you feel superiority and power in front of you.

They may or may not abuse power, but they can abuse power.

That's a situation I don't like.

I don't care so much if they catch me or not as when I understand that the person in front of me thinks he's superior.

It is a situation that I find very embarrassing.

Have you suffered from tyrannical directors? All the time.

Yes?

Is there still? Women too, huh?

And freak out! Do they lose their forms? Power is power.

And when women can exercise it, they do it just as well as men.

Full. What do you do in those cases?

Protests? No, what's up!

I am not one to protest.

I'm to stop talking directly. What has made you shed the most tears? Any movie.

lassie

, for instance.

I cry a lot at the movies.

I prefer to go alone because it's embarrassing.

Snot, everything... I cry and cry. How do you make all the roles and all kinds of looks look good on you? Working long hours.

You come from playing Zulema, one of the great villains of television.

Why do you think 'Vis a Vis' has been such a transgressive series? I think it caught on at a time when young girls needed to move on from barbie for a while. Now they've made a movie about barbie. eight years ago, apart from seeing princesses, they wanted to see wretches...Berta Vázquez affirmed that filming had been hard and that many times she would not have wanted to shoot certain scenes.

Has it happened to you? I didn't shoot sex.

Don't you shoot intimacy scenes by contract? Not necessarily, it depends,

but in the cases in which I don't see it pertinent I save myself the ordeal that Berta says she suffered. You have chosen your roles very well.

Have you rejected any that you've regretted? When I was younger, a lot... You've confessed that you have contained anger because you've had to shut up many times. It's not that big of a deal either. What do you think of cancel culture?

Is society becoming more reactionary every day? It is governed by parameters that are for toddlers.

I can't help but point them out or make a fool of myself.

What do you identify with more: the hero, the victim or the villain?

Me with the villain.

Come on, I'm going to play the villain.

You with the victim, okay.

Clicking doesn't make you a better person.

Let's see what you do in your day to day and how you help others.

In the networks everyone is very brave.

It doesn't bother you!

Come on! Do you censor yourself a lot? Not so much anymore.

As a result of her latest film, Emma Thompson has declared that all women have been educated to hate our bodies: "It's a fact. Everything around us reminds us how imperfect we are."

Above all, the ads for creams.

I always say: "Damn, another cream to rejuvenate your skin."

Trunk, stop already!

There is some permanent bombardment.

She is splendid in the last movie.

It is a fact that there is a revulsion and that as long as women support women this will really change. The last full nude of the film has raised controversy. Hers?

I did not know. There have been feminists who maintain that this nudity was not necessary and that there is a lot of commiseration in that scene.

I did not know, I did not know it.

Of course I guess... I'm going to shut up.

I guess I'm going to shut up. What is the failure you've learned the most from? Personal things.

None working.

For me, work is trial and error.

Sometimes you are right and sometimes you are not.

It is part of the process.

I see it that way because I work a lot on each character.

The personal ones when they are failures I live them as failures.

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