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■ Interview: Lee Jun-seok, former representative of the People's Power
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"People's power, collusion to change the non-captain... An unreasonable number that cannot be overlooked from the time of the transition"
" President Yoon avoids without explanation for a month... If this happens repeatedly, it is the 'new military'"
"Before discussing the 'Lee Jun-seok attitude', we should talk about the 'right and wrong' of the situation first"
"There was no communication with President Yoon... If follow-up measures are taken I admit it, but I don't expect it"
"There is no intention to expose the person who persuaded him to resign... If the provocation continues, 'intention to expose' may arise"
"The Yoon administration, consistent with ignorance, eventually trying to induce a reaction in the public that it is boring " "Rules of
thumb for political survival 'Act by ... has nothing to do with justice"
"President Yoon is afraid of a political solution... The 'disappearance of politics' under the Yun administration will be a big risk"
"People's power, party members do not have political experience through democracy... Only whether the nomination is important" "Watch and see if 'Yun Hee-
kwan
' can be nominated in the 2024 general election
"
We should fight the lawsuit over the main issue… we need to keep a record so that nothing similar happens”
“President Yoon also applied for an injunction when he was president… It is natural that he will receive relief if he has any regrets”
“I will reveal my thoughts when the injunction is decided… I can apologize”
“I should mention the responsibility …I don't do arrogant arguments"
"Lee Jun-seok 20-30%, President Yoon 50%, 'Yun Hak-kwan' 20-30% responsibility"
"I want to make it a space for party members to freely express their opinions"
"Jang Ye-chan, the past He looks different…what do you discuss with Jang Ye-chan?”
"People who tell me to leave quietly, I don't tell you to rest for a while if it's your family's business."
"Scipio, even after winning the war, there was a lot of skepticism...Finally fighting Hannibal and ending the war"
"I've never done anything emotional or angry...the most I am confident that I will do well after thinking about a good path"
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▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor:
Lee Jun-seok, former representative of the People's Power, appeared.
welcome.
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: Hello?
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: You seem to be doing media interviews almost every day these days.
How long has it been, have you?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: It seems like a week has passed.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: About a week.
You didn't do well until then, did you?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of the People's Power: Actually, I was constantly watching what kind of irrational people in this situation and who ultimately led this situation.
The irrational numbers that appear from the time of the non-captain transition are irrational numbers that are almost impossible to ignore.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: I refrained from responding until the policy of switching to non-captain was confirmed, but after the transition to non-captain, can I not stand still?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People’s Power: I’ve talked a few times, but if there is a situation in which they were talking behind their backs, and it was exposed on the media camera and became an article, and the people’s disappointment grew because of them, I would like to point out the people who caused the situation. And we need to take responsibility for that, and it's already been nearly a month since those who sent and exchanged those texts have not expressed any stance on internal gunshots or cherry-picking.
This in itself is an unusual situation.
Among our people, have you heard any explanations about these kinds of texts that are expressed as some kind of internal gunfire?
Because there isn't.
So, in the end, we just mumble over these very important political issues, and the conclusion we came to again is that we say we're sorry and we explain a little bit.
So, isn't it just a collusion with each other?
No one thinks this is fair, maybe.
No, I don't think anyone sees this as the type of progress the people want.
If this is what I likened to the new military unit, and if this happens repeatedly, then it is the new military unit.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Then, most of the time, I saw comments like this and that, but there is a point where many people criticize Lee Jun-seok, some people support it and then criticize it.
Even so, President Yoon Seok-yeol is a president created by the coalition of conservative parties anyway, and he sent a text message saying that he was an internal gunman, and although it was made public, Lee Jun-seok's intense criticism of even President Yoon Seok-yeol is really the intention to save the conservative party. Or is it the intention to ruin the Yun Seok-yeol government?
There are many criticisms of whether it is the latter or not.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of Power of the People: In that sense, if everything is not resolved at the right time and at the right time, it may be crushed later and flowed in a bi-theory style.
I talked about the starting point on this matter, but in the end, if the president sent a rather problematic text message, and the floor leader read it, it would be exposed and then cut it off.
But then I go on vacation.
After that, no matter where reporters ask, they do not answer.
I can't see a certain politician's remarks because I'm busy with things
Otherwise, at any point in time, if there was any expression of regret or any explanation for the appropriate situation, I would not have come this far.
But when I go back to talking about this and then asking to fix this, hey, I told you to explain it for a month, but since you didn't see it, you should be quiet now. I made it clear in the letter I wrote to the judge that it is the attitude of going and saying that good things are good, and that I do not like those things, so I applied for an injunction.
In the future, this should not be the way to run the government of the Republic of Korea.
When there is a problem, it should not be a problem to print it down by force or to cover it with the size of the force, and that is the point about Rep. Lee Jae-myung that we are criticizing right now.
In the end, it's a good thing, or it's crushed like this, or I'm being criticized in the form of trying to do this by force, but among those in the party right now, I can put my conscience and say everything in my name about whether this is procedurally correct.
Before saying 'Lee Jun-seok, be quiet', I need to talk about whether the current situation is right or wrong, and then I want CEO Lee to tolerate it as a solution.
Now, there are people who are talking about their position as to whether this is right or not, but nevertheless, there are people who say, 'Lee should be patient.'
How can you call a person dog meat?
However, this is also because I am so naive that I do not fight. When I start arguing over the details, I have never said that people are dog meat, in fact.
And now and again yesterday, the new military point of view was also talking about the behavior of the new military unit.
In the end, when spring came to Seoul at that time, there was something called Seoul Yeokhoe-gun, which was famous at that time, and Rep. Shim Jae-cheol later revealed his thoughts, but we were too young to handle such a thing at that time.
Because of that, the students at that time returned to prevent a bloody clash, and the new military at that time misjudged it.
What is it?
Isn't it the 5.18 Gwangju Democratization Movement that remains a great pain in our society?
In case of Seoul Yeokhoe-gun, the space of Seoul is different from Gwangju.
If you say Seoul Station, there are a lot of foreign media nearby.
There is no need to infiltrate Gwangju with some kind of taxi driver.
Seoul is the place where foreign media gather.
If such a struggle continued at Seoul Station, what kind of airborne unit would be deployed like Gwangju, and there would be no bloodshed.
But when they threatened at Seoul Station, because of things they couldn't handle because they were too young, it was actually written by the citizens of Gwangju, whom I wrote later, but who never expected that they would be at the forefront of the struggle for democracy and did not consider it their burden. It suffered damage and stood at the forefront of democracy.
I am still the same today. If politicians do not correct this problem within the realm of politics, the people may have to endure such things in a wider area later.
That's why I'm raising an objection to this. To be honest, what the president says in the history of conservative parties, people who prostrate themselves and live well.
It's not because I don't know their history.
So, I'm not trying to hold back on that part, but if anyone wants to criticize me, I'd like you to first judge whether this is the right situation or not, leave that evaluation in history, and give advice about me.
For example, if you look at lawmakers in our party, people like Rep. Choi Jae-hyung proudly expressed their beliefs.
You have revealed many times that you have a very problematic situation with the current situation, but you also order me to do something like this, and this is advice I have heard.
But look at someone like Rep. Cheol-gyu Lee.
Every day, if you just say one word, they come to catch a horse tail and say, ‘How do you sound like a dog or like dog meat?
I don't even take it as advice at all.
This is the impression that this person is waiting to catch a real horsetail.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Lee Jun-seok told us a long story now, but while listening, we also said that we did not talk about that part when President Yoon Seok-yeol's internal gunshot message was revealed.
Not like Yoon Seok-yeol.
If so, have you had any contact with the President since then?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: I don't do it, I don't get it.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: I don't do it and I don't get it.
And President Yoon Seok-yeol said earlier that he was sorry, but for what purpose did he not talk about it at the press conference on the 100th last time?
There was no time to pay attention to the words of other politicians, concentrating on the economy and people's livelihood.
In any case, if President Yun Seok-Yeol explains it under any circumstances, does former President Lee Jun-Seok also intend to refrain from attacking or criticizing President Yoon Seok-Yeol?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: From that situation, the starting point of a series of situations is there, but if I admit that I was wrong about it, would I be able to collect the follow-up measures that followed?
If you do, I admit it.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: The follow-up action, the transition to non-captain?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of the People's Power: I will admit it if I collect everything including that, but I don't really want that.
Doing so is acknowledging the story of having been obsessed with it for almost a month now.
Rather, it is better to have this corrected by the courts.
That's how you clean it up.
So I filed an injunction.
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▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: When did you think that I had to file a handwritten petition?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former People's Power Representative: I don't know if the injunction will be this long, so it must have been the 17th after I finished the interrogation.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: It is the 100th day of your inauguration.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former People's Power Representative: So, on the 19th, I submitted it on the 19th, thinking that I should summarize my point of view based on the judge's questions and things like this during the interrogation for a day or so.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: On the 19th.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former People's Power Representative: So, what I actually submitted was on the 19th, and the fact that it was exposed to a certain daily newspaper yesterday is not something we exposed on our side.
That's why, as far as I know, on the 22nd, it was served on the other side's lawyer.
It was served on the 22nd, but coincidentally, it was released to the press on the morning of the 23rd?
It's also written for reading.
It undoubtedly believes it must have been leaked by the attorney.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: When I talk about former CEO Lee Jun-seok, the thing I hate the most is that he does not cowardly reveal himself in the shadow of anonymity, so he coined the term “key official Yoon Hee-kwan” in that petition.
What most people ask is, uh, if someone comes to Lee Jun-seok and leaves his office by the end of December, then there will be no police investigation, and I will make him visit various countries overseas as special envoys and presidential special envoys.
Why didn't you tell me?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: Of course, what I call the petition is not that I want to create any criminal wrong or wrong, but if you look at the contents of the petition, there is a structure of consciousness.
At first, I expected these things to happen regardless of the intention of the president, for example, but as time went on, I said that it was not, and I put it in to explain it. would not have done it that way.
To the judge, I was clearly trying to explain why this was not simply due to some error or mistake, but had been conducted very systematically, and the situation was serious enough to use such a grand term as a crisis of democracy. What if I had tried to do this by revealing what only I knew to the media, would I have originally written it in a form that would not be leaked into such a petition?
So come on now and I'm talking about a lot of people asking questions.
About that, then who is the person written in it?
If I move with the intention of revealing it, it is very much my intention to start a war of disclosure.
I didn't write it with that intention, so I don't say it when anyone asks.
When I saw you yesterday, someone told me that I was delusional, but try provoking me like that.
Then maybe I'll have an intention.
So please, please don't do this with such light words and actions.
A lot of people say that you can't tell if it's someone's intention or if someone just spoke with good intentions to solve the situation.
If you think you are that stupid and keep talking, you have no choice but to prove that you are not stupid.
So, I think that I would like you to be a little more careful with your words and actions.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: The two panelists who appeared here a while ago, please ask CEO Jun-Seok Lee.
There was something I said that I would like to ask about this if I met one, but Jang Seong-cheol, the former CEO of Lee Jun-seok, is smart and logical, but why are you so emotional these days?
People say they don't want to hear Lee Jun-seok's emotionally similar story through interviews here and there.
How would you answer this?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: Perhaps that's the way the government and its core think of responding.
Even the facts that have come out so far can be huge.
However, the reason for being ignorant and consistently refusing to respond is to provoke a reaction from the public that they are tired of it.
But looking at this in the past, there were many cases where the conservative government crushed such things, and then exploded a bigger bomb.
At first, back in 2014 and 2015, the Jo Eung-cheon and Park Gwan-cheon incidents started with things like that.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: The so-called sipsangsi document.
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: What was the story that came out at that time?
Do you know what rank of power this is in our country?
Who is number 1 and who is number 2, isn't it?
At that time, a lot of people in the end were just weird guys in the conservatives, and they were busy doing this and covering it up, and in the end, what happened a couple of years later called the Choi Soon-sil incident, which eventually led to the collapse of the government?
What's so special about this right now is that I'm afraid no one is going to say right or wrong on this issue, within conservative politics.
That's what's prevalent among legislators right now.
because?
They move according to the maxims they have heard while looking at politics, or that tendency.
Confronting the first-year president and his nuclear officers is something you should never do. It's their own political language.
What is the language for the masses?
no.
It is a language according to their survival tactics.
It's an experiential part of what we have to do to survive politically, and that has nothing to do with justice.
That's why I keep talking, and I repeat this as I keep saying it, but what happened to all the people who were in the same welfare state during the Park Geun-hye administration?
In the end, there are people who either quit politics or went to jail in the current situation.
because.
They later became accomplices because they didn't talk when they had to.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Then, Jun-seok Lee is a question from Kim Sang-il, a former special adviser, what do you want or what do you want?
Do you want President Yoon Seok-yeol's apology to express his regrets?
What would you say about this?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: Because I don't do it.
Because I'm not expecting it.
I'm not going to do it, so I'm not looking forward to it.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: What does CEO Junseok Lee want, in this situation?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: So I said that.
As I wrote exactly in the letter, what should be resolved in the realm of politics has not been resolved, and I am sorry to the judge that I depended on the authority of the judiciary to find a solution. Disappearance will continue I want to say this.
In other words, if there is an image that the president originally had as such a big image, or an image that he solves in a good way, there is one specific thing in my thoughts these days when I reflect on various memories.
After all, the president made the investigation into President Park Geun-hye hard in the past.
It was also customary at the time during the investigation of President Park Geun-hye.
At that time, it was customary for the president to make various political statements about the ruling party, for example, or to give opinions on nominations.
But then I interrogated this.
At that time, the reason for intervening in the ruling party's election was also included, and in fact, many people were arrested for abuse of power, and they would have done this, but then they created a very strict mesh by themselves.
That's why I'm in a situation where the president is very afraid to say that when there is a situation that needs to be resolved through politics at some point.
Take, for example, a series of situations like now.
For example, about my whereabouts or things like this, if the president directly talked to me in the conversation between the two of them, I would like to see Lee Jun-seok do this because he exchanged opinions on politics and now the ruling party has become the ruling party.
Or, if Chairman Lee Jun-seok had an idea, I would like him to play a different role and I would like a new leadership of the party to be established.
However, saying that is actually a statement that can be very problematic if caught.
That's why he didn't say that, but instead, as many people suspect, he went to a different method and eventually got rid of Lee Jun-seok, and things got bigger.
So it's the disappearance of politics, in a way.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Disappearance of politics?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: But we are experiencing something similar in many places right now.
For example, during the last local election, I felt that way on a few occasions.
For example, in the midst of any conversations about who would run as Gyeonggi governor, in fact, he just went out and held the primary, so that Rep. Yoo Seung-min lost the primary and Rep. Kim Eun-hye just left.
Then, I think there would be no justification for Rep. Yoo Seung-min to leave a message like this because he was so outraged.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: I told you that I lost to President Yoon Seok-Yeol at the time.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People’s Power: But what is it? Various under-the-ground situations that we don’t know about are not politically or politically adjusted, and then some other actions occur and trust is broken. Wouldn't that have been there?
Isn't it time to look into that point a bit like that?
There are things like why Chairman Kim Jong-in said this during the election process in the past and then they fought each other, and in the end, the lack of trust or the disappearance of politics will be a big risk for the Yoon Seok-yeol government in the future. see.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Then I’ve been hearing the stories of former CEO Jun-Seok Lee, but now there doesn’t seem to be a solution?
President Yoon Seok-Yeol told me earlier that it was a pity that I didn't have a story about right and wrong, but I was wrong about that.
Does the president have to be defeated so that former CEO Jun-seok Lee can come up with a solution to solve this situation?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former People's Power Representative: I am not reviewing any scenarios for it because I have no expectations.
I am like this
For example, if you look at the current lawmakers, there are people who express this.
It starts with Lee Jun-seok having to change his mind, and wherever he goes, there is a saying that the president must embrace it.
When I hear that, I feel a very strange point.
So what is the expression to embrace?
For example, in a situation where I think that my position as party representative has been unfairly expelled from the current situation, for example, then I will not specify who kicked me out. What is holding?
Are you saying they admit their mistakes?
Or maybe I threw you out, but I'm a merciful person, so I'll embrace you?
Should I even allow that?
Do I have to bear with people who have been hostile towards me and have seen, attacked and tackled so much that the public can see them now, and even show mercy to me?
So what I'm saying is that for conservative parties, it's always good to be good.
Or you do it when you just accept the logic that you have to die to defend that person because there is a culture of loyalty to the absolute.
But from my point of view, I can do politics or not.
But because of my pride as a person, I do this as if I was just kicked out, and then after I kick you out, we will embrace you and you. This is an insulting expression.
What do you have?
In the first place, then, don't make such a horde.
But when you start doing these things, things get even worse.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: When you were disciplined for 6 months, did you travel around the country and avoid contact with the media?
At that time, did I have the mindset to accept this discipline?
Did I have the mindset that this discipline was acceptable to me?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: If you look at it, it's like why I didn't take an injunction when I was disciplined.
The Ethics Committee must have had a lot of concerns during the disciplinary process.
If, for example, you try to punish someone after arguing with the facts, you may be subject to an injunction later.
But at that time, what I did was disciplined me for not maintaining my dignity.
To be honest, it's something like maintaining dignity, or it's not.
So it's just a decision by a majority vote.
When they did that, there was a high possibility that the party would voluntarily hit it and dismiss the injunction.
That's why I'd rather bet on it.
It must have been a strategy to do something like, 'Look, look at Lee Jun-seok, you deserve to be disciplined' if you get an X in a day or two by taking an injunction on something like that in a situation where the items that the public understands and the actual punishment are different.
As for that, I also listened to the advice of many people, so the disciplinary action in that direction must have been the intention itself.
So I didn't fight.
Instead, if we say the other way around, after the fact is revealed through some police investigation or something like that, then we can take an injunction again based on the result.
That was a separate situation.
▷ Young-jin Joo/Anchor: Is it difficult for former CEO Lee Jun-seok to do politics with President Yoon Seok-yeol, now?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: First of all, if we look at whether we have been in politics together, that is why, when I look at the presidential election, in the end, I had the big goal of the presidential election and worked together to achieve that goal, but looking at it now, I am free. Or I thought that I had shared such a philosophy on human rights with the president, so I came up with various policies.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: If you see people encouraging you to join the party, do you mean that you have no intention of leaving the party?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: Encouraging party members to join is actually something everyone should do.
However, this party has not given any thought to the importance of party members until now.
Until now, speaking of party members in this party, there are a lot of people who are very afraid that party members that I did not gather join the party after thinking about and recruiting party members in a hurry to get nominated at the time of local elections or such.
For example, our party membership has tripled or quadrupled, and there were originally about 500 party members in the constituency, but the district councilor I nominated came to collect 100 people, and then I gathered 100 people, so there were about 500. became a name
Where did the 1,500 come from?
Did Lee Jun-seok come in to promote party member recruitment?
If so, won't I be able to vote in the future if it's hostile to me?
If you have this kind of fear, what are the choices you usually make, I wish you would step out.
Please, I want those party members to go out.
Going back to the old days when about 500 people were tainted and damaged, wouldn't it be better to create a structure where the district councilor whom I nominated and the people who were entangled in such an interest helped me in the election and also helped the district councilor while still receiving my nominations.
I have never had this kind of experience in educating party members through party member democracy and getting political advice from party members.
So I don't really care how much later party member democracy becomes a powerful weapon.
Because today some media reports have come out that out of our party's constituency members, there will be around 90 or a few, 91 of which are where Conservatives have been elected at least 4 times in the last 5 elections in the constituency.
So, no matter what happens, it is a place that wins 4 out of 5 times.
If that's the case, then it's important to be nominated. We don't need to do campaigns and education together with party members to make our neighborhood a little bit more politically accepted.
All you need is me, because I'm running for the metropolitan area.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: With this kind of structure, former CEO Jun-Seok Lee is running for the metropolitan area right away.
He was against Ahn Cheol-soo, a member of Nowon, Seoul.
However, if this is the current structure, can former CEO Jun-seok Lee get the nomination?
If he is in a situation where he cannot receive the nomination, what choice will Lee Jun-seok make?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: Let's go see it then.
Can Yoon Hak-kwan be nominated?
Usually, people called Yoon Hak-kwan have a stage of development.
At first, people who said I wasn't Yoon Hak Kwan, after being elected president, go somewhere and grab a microphone and say, "I am Yoon Hak Kwan."
All those videos remain.
Recently, there are people who reject the word, saying that it was coined by a very naughty Lee Jun-seok.
If you go later, the people called Yoon Hak-kwan might be saying, “Wake up Yoon Seok-yeol.”
People who have lived that way usually do it.
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▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Former CEO Lee Jun-seok appears today, and today's date is August 24th.
When I heard that the former CEO Lee Jun-seok was coming, I searched for this and that, and I looked up the words of the former CEO Jun-seok Lee at the Supreme Council meeting on August 23 a year ago. You might be thinking about this, but give it a try.
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▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: Former CEO Lee Jun-seok is not a good apology person, but he repeated his apology twice at that time.
That was probably the first debate, the first debate between the candidates or the presentation or something like this, and then Min Young-sam and Yoon Seok-yeol, special advisor at the time, Lee Jun-seok, go to Yoo Seung-min's camp and say whatever you want.
Or if you want to continue as a representative, you shouldn't go there.
There was probably a lot of confusion in the process of looking at this kind of former CEO Lee Jun-seok with suspicion, and I think he apologized for that.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former People's Power Representative: I have never heard of people like Min Young-sam, and I have no interest in them, but this is what I see when I see them.
At that time, around August, candidate Yoon Seok-yeol would have joined the party on July 31, at that time.
Then, from the very beginning, I had a strong fight, at that camp.
in the end what
▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Did you join the party when Lee Jun-seok was not present?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: That's right.
After joining the passing team, whether you would like to discuss or not.
What surprised me was that, from the perspective of the party leader, the success of the election was in my head.
Then we discussed it several times, and we had a two-to-two discussion, we had fun, and we planned and presented this kind of thing, and suddenly it came out like this, there.
It was reported at the time, but this is the party leader's idea to check Candidate Yoon Seok-yeol, who is unfavorable to the debate.
But if you do that, I have nothing to say.
You start chasing the odds.
In fact, in the head of the party leader, the design tends to be made with the box office in mind, but in it, each individual candidate is at a disadvantage if we discuss it.
It's funny to say that, but to say that it's to push someone and frankly bully someone, there's nothing you can do when it comes out like that.
But, as you all know from doing such a thing, it started with someone who was at that camp having to impeach the representative, and no, it is not a normal situation to come in as a candidate and say that it is not a normal situation to impeach the representative.
So, I will say this, but if there is a point where the conservative party is absolutely missing, there is a tendency to impose some kind of political culture or something like this in the end.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Anyway, I watched the scene from a year ago with you all again.
Former CEO Jun-seok Lee must have clearly thought about what I should do if the application for injunction is cited or rejected.
If it is quoted, the court accepted Lee Jun-seok's argument, but then, will the former CEO Lee Jun-seok more actively communicate with the public and interview the media?
In the case of dismissal, the court rejects Lee Jun-seok's argument, so what will he be quiet about then?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: If I am quoted, there is nothing I will do.
Once quoted, there's nothing I can do about it.
I will meet and communicate with party members and continue this kind of behavior.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Will you disappear from the press?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People’s Power: I don’t have any special plans right now.
If it were quoted, there would be many people who would have to be very politically responsible instead.
If they don't take responsibility, we can comment on that.
And if it is rejected, I will argue over the original case.
Because in this case, it should be recorded.
In the end, it's part of my calling to leave behind what the courts were and what serious judgments were made for what reasons so that something like this doesn't happen again in the future.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: In case of rejection, is there no responsibility for former CEO Jun-Seok Lee?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: Well?
I used the analogy a few times, but as a legal process, it is a guaranteed procedure for all citizens, and some say that applying for an injunction is spitting in the well or the party is destroyed. It's inappropriate because I'm praying that I do this, but if I have to say this, I always quote it, but about a year and a half ago, Prosecutor General Yoon Seok-yeol applied for an injunction against an unfair disciplinary action led by Minister Choo Mi-ae, and he won there, so he was reinstated, and the case was lost again later. to.
But who said that now that I lost sight of it?
It is natural for him to have something unfair about it and to fight and get his rights remedied, and at that time, did President Yoon Seok-yeol say that the prosecution should be destroyed?
Did you mean to destroy the Korean government?
I don't think I can't be criticized for what I did to get relief for my unfairness.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Those who supported the People’s Strength candidate Yoon Seok-yeol in the last election are now splitting up in the process of disciplinary action and conversion to non-captain Lee Jun-seok. There are also quite a lot, if you look at the comments .
Of course, there are many who support it.
Anyway, if it's like this, if it's a politician, it's my fault.
I would say once, that I have a lot of responsibility, but I don't think former CEO Lee Jun-seok would say that.
▶ Jun-seok Lee / Former People's Power Representative: I will of course do it once the situation is settled.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: Most of those remarks were made by me after the conflict situation I mentioned earlier was sorted out.
In the current situation, have you ever seen Yoon Hee-kwan or other people talking about their own responsibilities?
Out of the blue, CEO Ho-Young Joo came out and suddenly took office. Then he bowed his head, and what was there other than that?
Now, have you mentioned any one word about your responsibility for the fact that the approval ratings fell in 100 days after the Yoon hackers took the lead in their greetings and everything in the early days of the regime?
They say that everything is Lee Jun-seok's responsibility, if you look at it.
So, I always mention the parts I am responsible for, as you saw in the video earlier.
However, in the current situation, I will not go with a nonsensical theory of Yangbi.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: I will not go with the nonsensical Yangbi theory.
After the decision to cite or dismiss the provisional injunction, shouldn't former CEO Lee Jun-seok reveal his thoughts to the public anyway?
▶ Jun-seok Lee / Former People's Power Representative: Of course I will.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Will you apologize at that time?
▶ Jun-seok Lee / Former People's Power Representative: If there is something to apologize for, I should do it.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Is there anything to apologize for?
if there is?
The viewers left comments on Joo Young-jin's news briefing that former CEO Lee Jun-seok was coming.
Now responsible for the situation.
How much do you think the responsibilities of the party, yourself, and the president are each?
The second question seems to have already been said, the application for injunction.
How much do you think?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: It seems that the percentage came out in most of the opinion polls.
So, usually, the Lee Jun-seok ratio seems to come out at about 20-30%, then the president himself seems to come out at 50%, and the Yoon Hak-kwan seems to come out at about 20-30%.
I think it's that kind of ratio.
And that's what I did when I divided it into three and asked three multiple-choice questions.
If there was something else in 4 and 5, I would have been more dispersed.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: I see.
Let's look at the next question.
The situation escalated due to the entertainment of the former representative, and if there was no memorandum, the representative would have been doing it.
Would you apologize to the party members and the people for this?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: To answer that question, it's called that memorandum.
Regarding Kim Cheol-geun, the head of the political affairs office, many people say that because they attack us after defining the situation in this way, such as a 700 million memorandum, a memorandum of silence, from the standpoint of many people attacking this in the first place. Once you've figured out exactly what it's about, I'll have something to tell you.
So, in the first place, if you look at that story, it's too long to explain, so I don't explain it every time it airs. In fact, if you look at the articles and things like that as the investigation is in progress, it's a completely different story.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Communication space, talk about books, what can you talk about next?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People's Power: In the party member communication space, many people say that CEO Hong Jun-pyo is making something similar to the dream of a young man he made in the past, but well, Chairman Hong Jun-pyo is not a programmer, I am a programmer.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: A while ago I decided to make it myself.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former People's Power Representative: There is a direction that I can correct from there, and in the end, what kind of content will be included rather than form and what kind of people will come?
And the most important thing is how the person who created the space intends to operate the space.
At least, I try to make it a space that does not prevent people from freely expressing their opinions in it.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Does the book also contain the process of the last presidential election with President Yoon Seok-Yeol?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: There is no such thing.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Isn't there anything like that?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People’s Power: The reason I started writing that book in the first place is that after the punishment, I did what I did for a few months, and then I wanted to write a book in which I would like the party to go by revealing my thoughts on the party’s innovation. That's why I wrote it, but I didn't know that there would be an irrational number in the middle.
For this reason, it contains only the contents of party innovation or policy innovation.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Ye-Chan Jang, Chairman of the Youth Foundation, criticized Jun-Seok Lee, the former CEO.
We were on the same road together, but I want to have a discussion.
I expressed it as a pro-Lee Jun-seok system, but do you think former CEO Lee Jun-seok would have a discussion with Chairman Jang Ye-chan?
▶ Jun-seok Lee / Former Representative of People’s Power: For example, Chairman Jang Ye-chan came to the former Chairman Jang Ye-chan and the first thing I saw was liberalism. The relationship started when I asked Jeonggyeon.
The appearance of Chairman Jang Ye-chan back then and the appearance of today are very different.
And now that Chairman Jang Ye-chan is standing, that seat is the seat I have been standing in.
The way the young people said they played a key role in the presidential election, the way I felt proud and the way I thought that I was a person in charge of what I did, then I boldly threw it away during the Park Geun-hye administration and started my own politics. .
Now, Chairman Jang Ye-chan seems to be feeling a sense of responsibility for something rather than his own politics.
But I'd like to take it off.
Even now, if you look at me, people in charge of Lee Jun-seok are talking and doing this as if they are going to do it, but there are a lot of people in the world who tried to do that and failed.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Do you have any plans to discuss?
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former Representative of People’s Power: What topic would you like to discuss?
For example, if the discussion is about a policy or a direction, you know what I never avoid.
CEO Song Young-gil was also there.
But now, in the case of Chairperson Jang Ye-chan, it is not clear to whom and what topic I am going to discuss.
So, if that's the case, then well.
Maybe you should have called me?
You won't be able to call.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Jun-Seok Lee, former CEO I think this will be the last question.
I still vividly remember the day I took office.
My rough eyes and anxious eyes.
Yes?
Well, you were quoting Lim Jae-beom's 'For You' lyrics.
Your eyes looking at me, your anxious eyes.
The speech citing the lyrics of that song was quite impressive, and at the end of the lyrics of that song, it reads like this.
Because I am dangerous, because I love you, I will leave for you.
There are lyrics to this song, but it seems that there are people who have such thoughts towards former CEO Lee Jun-seok in the current situation, so when former CEO Lee Jun-seok quietly leaves the current situation for a while and after a certain period of time passes, the situation is sorted out and he comes back like Lee Jun-seok will it be
Do you have no such thoughts at all?
▶ Jun-seok Lee / Former People's Power Representative: I always talk about it.
It's a cowardly company.
If it's your son's problem, you don't talk like that.
Korea has such a unique culture.
He seems cool all his life, but he doesn't talk about it when it comes to his family, himself, or his children.
I think that part should be judged that way, and I would rather say this at the end, which I quoted once before.
'Scipio Africanus' When I came back from a victory in the war in Rome and my enemies fought like this to impeach me, I felt betrayed and talked about it.
But I was told that when Scipio Africanus first went to war, many said it was too early to give him any role.
But when he was in his twenties, he commanded the army and defeated Hannibal of Carthage.
After winning, when they try to go to a bigger battlefield, they stop again.
No, that's what Scipio said, but what's the reason you, who were suspicious of me at the age of 20, doubted me, who came to lead me to victory in many battles, and won't give me a role?
I can fight better on the bigger battlefield With this, I go and fight Hannibal and end that war.
There are many people who care about me, but I have never done anything that I have done because I am emotional or angry, while in politics.
So, when I do a lot of action, I think and move.
I am moving while judging what is the best way for Lee Jun-seok to do for the Republic of Korea at this point, and I am confident that I will do well.
So thank you for your concern, but just because I don't listen to your advice doesn't mean I won't listen to you.
It is my judgment that there is a better role that I can play, so I hope you will not be offended too much.
▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Jun-Seok Lee, former CEO After the injunction decision comes out, we'll have an interview once again right after that.
▶ Jun-seok Lee/Former People's Power Representative: I can't say that definitively.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Why is that?
▶ Lee Jun-seok / Former People's Power Representative: I don't know where I am, I.
▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Is that right?
If you think that we will be able to contact you, and if you have a decision in your heart, I would like to ask you to come out.
I heard you well today.
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(SBS Digital News Bureau)