On France 2, it was the head of the Modem François Bayrou for the macronie, the head of the LFI deputies Mathilde Panot for the Nupes, Philippe Ballard (RN) and Jean-François copé (LR) who clashed on the same themes as well as on safety or the environment.

Addressing Emmanuel Macron's trip to Ukraine at the start of the program on BFMTV, LFI MP Clémentine Autain wondered "about the calendar, a few days before the second round": "did Emmanuel Macron think that Was it a mere formality or is he wishing to dodge the debate?"

RN acting president Jordan Bardella said it was "bad timing".

"We have a bit of the feeling that the President of the Republic does not like electoral campaigns", and "the French say to themselves: is this president interested in us?"

he launched.

RN acting president Jordan Bardella in Paris, June 13, 2022 JULIEN DE ROSA AFP / Archives

"More than an image, it's an important moment," replied the Minister of Public Accounts Gabriel Attal, who immediately accused the heads of LFI Jean-Luc Mélenchon and RN Marine Le Pen of having "opposed what 'we support the Ukrainians', prompting protests from his opponents.

"Falsification of our positions", replied Clémentine Autain.

On purchasing power, the debate quickly became quite technical.

"We want to make the profiteers of the crisis pay," said Clémentine Autain, who defended the idea of ​​creating 14 tax brackets so that "those who earn less than 4,000 euros per person win".

LFI "it's Venezuela" launched Jordan Bardella by defending four proposals: reduction of VAT to 5.5% on energy, basket of 100 basic necessities exempt from VAT, reindexing of pensions on inflation and salary increase.

Gabriel Attal defended him a "law on purchasing power" in particular to "revalue pensions by 4% from July" and initiate "tax cuts".

On pensions Jordan Bardella accused the majority of "wanting to make a worker work longer than a manager", castigating an "unfair" and "brutal" model.

"Our project is retirement at 60", and "no one will leave with less than 1,100 euros", assured Clémentine Autain.

LFI MP Clémentine Autain in Aubervilliers, north of Paris, May 7, 2022 JULIEN DE ROSA AFP / Archives

"The real difference between you and us is that we assume to say how we are going to finance the expenses", replied Gabriel Attal, assuring that the reform would be done "over ten years" and "in consultation with the social partners".

On several occasions, Jordan Bardella asked Clémentine Autain: “who did you vote for” in the second round of the presidential election?

"Against you," she replied.

The debate heated up at the end of the program around security.

"You are on the side of hatred and thugs", launched the candidate Nupes the president of the RN, defending a principle of self-defense for the police.

"I am on the side of justice and a republican police", replied Clémentine Autain for whom "we must revise in depth the doctrine of the maintenance of order".

"Liberty equality fraternity you make paper casseroles out of it," she added.

“Delinquency indigenism communitarianism you it runs at full speed”, replied Jordan Bardella.

Gabriel Attal on the steps of the Elysée in Paris, June 14, 2022 Ludovic MARIN AFP

"It's a shame for the French to hear the police insulted and instrumentalized," said Gabriel Attal, lamenting that Jean-Luc Mélenchon "qualified the police as liars, barbarians, rebels".

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