The expert: Russia's strategy is to divide the West

She describes the situation as very serious, which requires a long-term perspective.

- Russia and Putin are playing on possible disagreements in the EU and NATO, says Gudrun Persson.

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She believes that the change must come from Russia.

- When it comes, then it can go very fast and it is always unpredictable.

Magnus Christiansson, senior lecturer in military science at the Swedish National Defense College, is in the same line.

He also sees a risk that the Western powers will start putting pressure on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

- There is a risk that there is an implicit pressure on Zelenskyj to give in in some way in the interest of stability, he says.

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