Europe 1 with AFP 10:25 p.m., April 20, 2022

During the debate between the two rounds, Emmanuel Macron returned to the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Attacked by Emmanuel Macron on his links with the Kremlin, the RN candidate wishes to support "a free Ukraine" independent of the USA, the EU and Russia.

Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen fought on the European subject on Wednesday, the outgoing president accusing his opponent of "lying about the goods", the far-right candidate considering that he had "never seen French leaders defend the interests of French" in the EU.

"Europe is not all or nothing, it is not + we take everything and we say nothing or we take nothing +", began Ms. Le Pen, saying "wish to stay in the European Union", but "deeply modify it to bring about a European alliance of nations".

Lively exchange on the question of Mercosur

"There is a whole series of policies of the European Union with which I disagree", continued the one who is running for the third time in the presidential election, citing "the multiplication of free trade agreements where the 'we sell German cars, sacrificing breeders to competition from chickens from Brazil or beef from Canada", in reference to the proposed free trade agreement with the American market.

“Which chicken from Brazil?” asked Mr. Macron, recalling that he had “opposed” the EU agreement with Mercosur because “when we ask our farmers for things, we ask the same thing to your face".

The Russian question at the heart of the debates

"What you are describing looks like a band apart," replied Mr. Macron, accusing him of "lying about the goods".

"Europe is a co-ownership, we cannot decide alone to rip out the facade. Wanting to change a club alone is to stand apart," he insisted.

"You are proposing an alliance with Russia, it's still in your program, it's amazing," he said again.