Juline Garnier 9:07 a.m., April 19, 2022

Bruno Le Maire was the guest of Sonia Mabrouk this Tuesday morning on Europe 1. Asked about the pension reform, put forward to seduce voters a few days before the second round of the presidential election, he clarified the project of Emanuel Macron.

For the Minister of the Economy, there is no "campaign of seduction" on the part of the president-candidate.

"He never strayed from his line."

At the microphone of Sonia Mabrouk, Bruno Le Maire, Minister of the Economy and support of Emmanuel Macron, came to defend the outgoing president's pension reform project.

Variable and imprecise on the starting age for some, the minister wanted to specify in detail what it is.

For him, Emmanuel Macron "never has his line" and has not entered "a campaign of seduction" of Jean-Luc Mélenchon's voters on the burning subject of pensions.

“We want to save the pay-as-you-go pension system,” he insisted on Europe 1. “We start from a very simple principle: there are fewer people who contribute and pay the pensions of those who are on the payroll. retirement and there are more people retired. So anyone can understand that one of the parameters must necessarily be moved," he recalled. 

Retirement at age 65, as originally planned

Bruno Le Maire clarified that there was no question of increasing workers' contributions, nor of lowering the pensions of retired people.

"On the contrary: we want to index [the retirement pension] to inflation and from next July, allow pensions to be increased to follow the increase in prices. So there is only one solution left: postpone the legal retirement age", explained the Minister of the Economy.

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Despite the reflections on a retirement at 64, the reform remains fixed at a departure at 65, as initially.

But Emmanuel Macron's support specifies that the reform will take into account the date of entry into working life for long careers as well as the arduous nature of the work.

It is also considering the possibility of reversing the retirement age by 2028.