Nuria Rock

.

Moncada, 1972. While she presents

La Roca

and collaborates (when she does not replace Pablo Motos) in

El Hormiguero

, she has found time to make her debut as a theater actress in

La Gran Depression

, together with Antonia San Juan at the Rialto in Madrid.

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Do the work for me, Nuria.

When you've been giving interviews for so many years, do you have anything left to tell?


I hope there are still stories to tell because I want a lot of fantastic things to continue to happen to me, but it is true that when you dedicate yourself to the media and have been in it for so many years, in the end everything is known.

At least everything that has happened to me professionally.

What happens is that, from there, there are already your personal perceptions and those of others, the sensations, the failures that one eats, the successes that one enjoys... I have always tried to keep these things more to myself .

What perception do you see people have of you?


I am very grateful to the people because since I started in this, and it's been a long time since, they have treated me with respect.

If I had found a hostile place in this profession, I would not have stayed.

I am in the media because I am happy and because they have let me be.

After all, the directors are the ones who make the decisions and put you in and take you out, but the public is the one who supports you and keeps you.

In that sense, I have always found a very friendly environment.

I think the perception that people have of me is very positive and, although I have never shown myself one hundred percent, I have had long-hour live jobs where you cannot be faking or sticking to a script or hiding who you really are.

There are places where you can be seen and I think that where I have been seen, I liked it.

Or at least that's what I prefer to think.


You made your TV debut at the age of 22 and have just turned 50. They've been recognizing you on the street for more than half your life.

Has it not risen or has it overwhelmed you?


Fortunately, I have never had an overwhelming success that has thrown me off balance.

Since I started, everything has come about very progressively.

I started working in a place that was totally unknown to me and my environment, which was television, and suddenly I saw myself appearing in the press and that everything I did had repercussions.

I've always experienced it as something very natural, but it's true that you end up incorporating this thing of fame into your day-to-day life in an almost instinctive way: I already know that when I go anywhere and people are looking at me, it's because I Recognize and live with it.

This really has been a personal purpose: not stop doing anything I want because people are aware of me.

When I go up a staircase at El Corte Inglés and I see three people going up and down to see what I'm like from the front and what I'm like from the back, well, nothing happens,

Enjoy it (laughs).

If the guys want to look at me, let them look.

Or if people look at your shopping cart or if someone else sees you coming from the front and stops at a shop window so that, when you pass by, they look at you from another point of view from behind, well, okay, don't even hide it, boy, if I give in bill.

Nothing happens.

What I always do is put myself in the place of the other and, let's be honest, I do that too.

So, as long as it's done without invading, I'm not bad at it.


You spoke before of successes and failures.

We all know the successes, let's talk about failures.


Excuse me, you all know failures too, let's see what you think.


Which one has hurt you the most?


All failures hurt me a lot, because I am a person who is involved to the core.

I don't know how to play this profession any other way.

So, when you get 100% involved in a project, I don't care how deep and big it is, and then it doesn't work, it's a huge frustration.

And I've had a lot of those.

If you count the things that I have done in these 27 years of career, you will see that they are a lot.

Why have I done so many different things?

Well, obviously, because many have not worked and I have had to start doing another one.

It is like that, even though there are always those who want to sweeten or disguise failure.

Not me, I accept it: I have failed more times than I have had great success.

Fortunately, what I have had, and I thank the industry for this,


Have you come to doubt yourself in those bad streaks?


Of course, of course.

There is insecurity, there is a sense of failure and doubts about yourself.

Well, more than doubting yourself, and this is a bit of self-criticism, you doubt the system.

"It is that they have not been able to see how good this was."

No, auntie, sometimes the fault is yours, but I also learned very quickly that, although it is true that you are the visible head, neither when you succeed are you the one who succeeds nor when you fail you have to eat everything yourself.


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You say that you have been given the opportunity to do everything and now you are making your debut in the theater.


You see, at this point in the movie.

For me this is a wonderful weapon because it generates an illusion and a capacity for surprise that keeps me alive and with my stomach boiling.

It makes you addicted.

I mean, damn it, it's great that things keep happening to me.

And then I'm a daredevil.

Félix Sabroso called me to do this show with Antonia San Juan and told me: "Think about it."

And I replied: "What do you say? I don't have to think about anything."

I have never thought anything when someone has trusted me.

If you believe in me, I'm not going to take your reason away;

Maybe later you regret it, but I'm not going to do that job for you.


Don't those jumps scare you?


What's up, jumping into the void and taking risks turns me on.

When faced with something that I know how to do, I want to perfect it and that's fine;

but facing something unknown and seeing how far I am able to go, seems like a drug in my veins.


Now you are also an influencer.


Ah yes yes.

Now I have become an

influencer

: with each model I wear, news on the web.

Anyway, all this that is generated around you is a bit misleading and you have to remember it.

People spend a lot of you and that's the reality.

Now, if you have a Google alert with your name on it and news about you is coming out all the time, you come up: "Wow, look how important I am!".

Well no, girl, you're not.

We live in a time when immediacy prevails, everything expires instantly.

So, so much news has to be generated that anything is, there will come a time when we breathe and it is news.

So I enjoy all of this, I like it and it's a compliment: "Look what the most beautiful thing Nuria Roca has put on" or "Nuria has sold out of this garment in stores".

Well, hey, great.

Although now it overwhelms me a little: Oops,


The work deals with the vital crisis of two middle-aged women, a stage that is gaining strength in fiction after a long time invisible.


There is a change in trend or inertia whereby women of my age are beginning to be much more needy;

I am not going to say visible, because I believe that we have never been invisible.

In any case, that happens to us women and in part also to men, when you mature and are older, because I am already beginning to consider myself older, you are in a wonderful moment in life where you have matured, you have the capacity for reflection, analysis ... Now I often think of jobs that were offered when I was 26 years old, that I didn't know how to do the or with a joint, and I say: "Damn, if I take this now, I'll nail it."

Because now I am much better, fortunately.


Was machismo constant on TV when you started?


Of course the machismo on TV was real and constant.

We have traveled a path from which we cannot go back a single step.

In fact, I think that in this profession, being so public and so visible, much more progress has been made than in others that no one is paying attention to.

That is where you have to move forward.

When you see the Boards of Directors of large companies and 90% are men, you say: "Holy shit, something is happening here."

Obviously, because then you go to the Universities and 80% are women.

What happens here?

What has been lost along the way?

Society has to be much more realistic in this sense and I think that the world of television and entertainment has been quite realistic these years.


Did you have unpleasant experiences?


The truth is, no.

I have not had any bad experience or any case of discrimination for being a woman on TV.

However, look, I'm going to tell you an earlier thing that took me a long time to find out.

When I was finishing my degree in Technical Architecture, I was working in a studio as an intern without pay.

Over the years I discovered that my colleagues, in the same situation and doing the same job, did get paid and were all men.

It is a clear case of absolutely reprehensible and terrible discrimination.

And the worst thing is that I was still very naive.

There were meetings with clients, they were left in the studio with AutoCAD, they took me and I felt important.

Now I know they were taking me because I looked so cute sitting there.


Have you ever imagined that life in which Nuria Roca is a technical architect?


Yes, I've imagined it many times and I always think that, damn, it's great that the TV has crossed my mind because it's what I really like and I don't know if I would have liked architecture either.

It is very difficult to do what you like in life, very difficult.

If you can do it, you are absolutely privileged.

That is why I am very embarrassed to complain when something bad happens to me.

I say: "Man, come on, Nuria, you better shut up."


With Will Smith and Jada Pinkett, I've read news again about your supposedly open marriage with Juan del Val.

That theme always comes back


You see.

We will be married for 50 years and it will continue to appear, it seems that people do not stop being morbid about my marriage.


Are we so puritanical?


I think that there we have also made a great leap and we have had a certain evolution, more would be missing.

Now, and I put this down to the media, this topic generates clicks, and as long as it continues to generate clicks, we'll stick with the headline and read no further.

I have explained it, I have never talked about my personal life or what I do or do not do, so with that I never referred to my partner and our way of proceeding.

Now, I believe that the couple has to be reviewed, that it is in constant evolution, that you do not have to take all the bases for granted, that you have to desire each other and that, and this is evidence, one desires the others, not only to your partner.

Then each one makes the personal decisions that he considers in their relationship, but, hell, we're not dead.

But it doesn't matter how I explain it.

It's not Puritanism

it's morbid and, furthermore, that people are very afraid when someone puts before them a reality that can happen to them and they don't want to face it.

They do not like to listen too much according to what reflections, lest they be splashed.


Let's talk about 'El Hormiguero'. How do you explain why it is the program with the largest audience in this country and hardly anyone recognizes that they watch it?


It is our fate.

In Spain it is very difficult for us to recognize the talent and success of others.

This is so and it is tremendously unfair, but it is a reality that must be dealt with.

El Hormiguero

will end up studying in communication faculties.

Why?

Because it is an absolutely perfect machinery, with a wonderful gear.

With all the years I've been in this, I'm going to

El Hormiguero soon

to watch the rehearsal because watching is receiving a master class on TV every day.

And it is milk and absolutely fascinating that, after 16 years, it is still the program with the highest rating, do not let your guard down for a second, always try to go a little further and do not settle.

I have never seen that on television and that has a name: Pablo Motos.

But it's curious that what you say happens and... It's going to seem like I'm giving the media shit all the time.


Give us, give us

Do not cut yourself.


Ok (laughs).

Recognition by the public is absolutely unquestionable, because the audience data does not lie, but then there are the professional analyses, the reviews, the editorials... All of this is part of personal perceptions and I detect that many find it more amusing other types of programs that have much less effort, less sacrifice and less success.


Let's see, for whatever reason, Pablo Motos is not the guy who likes the best in Spain.


Look, and whoever feels identified should assume it, there are people who are cool and, when you're cool, you can burp and be very cool.

And then there is another one that is not so, that it costs much more to get to the same place.

And that happens to Pablo, but apart from being his friend, I will tell you that he seems to me to be a personality worthy of study.

His talent and his work are impressive, really.

I wish he was more familiar with that part.

I have sometimes told him that he should broadcast a rehearsal live, but he is past recognition.

He is way above flattery and posturing.

Mainly because he is happy, he makes the program that he wants and people like it.

We work for the public, not for the media.

That's how it is.


You just turned 50, is there a crisis or no crisis?


Well look, until two days before the birthday I was very

happy

and very "Oh, I love birthdays".

Well no, well no.

All lie.

The 50s sound terrible, they seem like a lot and the only ones who tell you that it is a wonderful time are those who are older, nobody younger tells you that.

It gives me a lot to suspect.

Obviously 50 today is not what it used to be, but I am concerned that my mental age is not in line with my biological age.

I hope that one day they will be on par, but for now not at all: I feel much younger than that figure, which causes me a lot of respect.

I look good physically, I have a lot of energy, I do a lot of things... It's important to feel good and pretty and attractive, but it's also tremendously important to recognize yourself and accept that this is going to end sooner or later.

In that we are, but for now I resist.


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