• "20 Minutes" asked its readers what they thought of the massive "yes" to the exit of Alsace from the Grand-Est region obtained by the citizen consultation launched by the CEA two months ago.

  • If the majority say they are very satisfied, there are also many who doubt the legitimacy of a result obtained with few voters or its interest.

  • Still others simply regret a “selfish” choice, a “sad withdrawal into oneself”.

"It is a" yes "without appeal to 92.4%" for the exit of Alsace from the Grand-Est region, rejoiced Monday Frédéric Bierry, president of the European Community of Alsace (CEA).

An “impressive” result officially announced after a two-month citizen consultation launched on his initiative last December.

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, a large number of Internet users have confided, sometimes very long, on what they think of the result of this consultation.

It emerges that the subject fascinates but still divides.

The legitimacy of the consultation

For or against, several Internet users like Gérard first question the very legitimacy of this consultation and denounce “political manipulation”.

Recalling the referendum in 2013 unfavorable to the meeting of the two departments, Gérard criticizes "this passage in force".

Others also note the low turnout (169,000) out of the 1.9 million inhabitants of the two Alsatian departments and hope, like Simone, that they “will not have the backing of Paris to pass this request.

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Myriam and many others criticize the communication made around this consultation for “a vote which ultimately only targeted Alsatians who wanted to leave the Grand-Est.

"It's hard to imagine a rate of more than 90% on a representative panel of any population," continues Myriam.

Too bad, because more neutral, the result could have been interesting and exploitable.

“A feeling of illegitimacy that André figures which indicates that only 7% of Alsatians voted.

Worse still, Etienne denounces a “popular vote” which “almost only interests those who want to say yes” and which “brings nothing”.

“What is offered in return for the yes?

Nothing clear, assures the Internet user.

Getting out of the Grand-Est is not a project.

A project must be to build something.

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An outing that goes “in the direction of history”

A disputed legitimacy, but above all a large majority of Internet users who say they are in favor of leaving the Grand Est.

Main argument put forward, the "particularism" of Alsace.

“Our region has a history which has also meant that we found ourselves crushed between France and Germany during three wars, explains Magali.

Alsace has its culture, its specificities, which France has already tried to erase in the past and which many Alsatians wish to preserve.

The culture, and therefore the language, which "could be in danger" if Alsace remained "diluted" in the greater region: "knowing how to speak the dialect has in the past favored the link with our German and German-speaking Swiss neighbors whose traditions and culture are close.

Of which we are cousins, ”explains Sylvia.

At most, a few Internet users possibly conceive of a region including the Moselle.

Its inhabitants "share the same historical period, almost recent, with the same particularism: the local code linked to the annexation of these three departments by Germany in the 19th century, as well as the non-abrogation of the concordat", underlines Jean.

History, culture, but also quite simply the rejection of the large region deemed "artificial", bringing together "different geographical entities with needs and assets far too different to obtain a coherent region".

An inconsistency but also the fear for some "that there are left behind, isolated areas".

“A sad withdrawal into oneself”

Clear-cut opinions that Jacques, despite being an Alsatian, does not share.

“When will we put an end to “the Alsatian exception”?

asks the user.

Geneviève and many others regret that this massive “yes” testifies to a “withdrawal into oneself”.

From a "short-sightedness", a "lack of openness" or even "a strong sign of nationalism and selfishness, even arrogance vis-à-vis its neighbors"...

“Where then is there a question of solidarity, exchanges, discoveries of the other and of others?

Sad image sent back by the inhabitants of this region where I also live, ”concludes a surfer.

Just like Quentin who regrets an "anti-social" choice and fears that Alsace will show "others that it is possible to abandon the poorer departments in order to stay among wealthier people", and therefore the end of subsidies .

Finally, others like William recall the importance of “still giving the Grand-Est region a chance.

We have to move forward with the major regions, they are not yet perfect but they are moving in the right direction.

Returning to Alsace means closing borders and opportunities”.

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