Lee Jun-seok "Candidate Yoon Seok-yeol's democratic remarks are to leave"

[Joo Young-jin's News Briefing]

When citing an interview, please clearly state the name of the program 'SBS <Joo Young-jin's News Briefing>'.

Copyright belongs to SBS.

■ Broadcast: SBS <News Briefing of Joo Young-jin> Mon-Fri (14:00~16:00)

■ Host: Joo Young-jin anchor

■ Interview: Lee Jun-seok, Chairman of the People's Power Party

-------------- ------------------------------

"Youn's democratic remarks are to leave"

"I endured insulting comments"

"Kim Geon-hee was suspected, there was only a job request without a strategy"

"I didn't have a role in my predecessor " "I

can't fit everything... I'll do what I want"

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Welcome.

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: Hello.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Have a seat. CEO Lee also seems to like the songs sung by Yeonjun Oh and Yeonjun Oh, a youth from Jeju. I really like it too.

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: Actually, I listen to that song because it has a better tone than that song. Originally, that was the OST for 'Pocahontas'.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: That’s right.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: That's why Disney songs have a lot of instructive content when I look at them as I get older.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Isn’t that the message that there should be no discrimination just because there is a difference in skin color or color?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: That's right. Also, I respect other people's opinions and there was such a thing, so I sent a song request to Ahn Cheol-soo during the days of the Bareunmirae Party on a TV show in the past.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Yeon-Jun Oh's song 'The Color of the Wind' everyone, if you have time today, I would recommend you to listen to it. President Lee is standing in the middle of the news these days, so I have a lot of questions to ask, but the special amnesty of former President Park Geun-hye seems to have come particularly to CEO Lee Jun-seok.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: As I said in my Daegu speech when I went to the national convention, it is true that a more stringent jurisprudence was applied to former President Park Geun-hye than other former presidents. In the past, neither the late former President Kim Young-sam nor the late former President Kim Dae-jung had a situation that led to impeachment when their sons caused problems. However, even though Choi Soon-sil is not a blood relative, former President Park Geun-hye was very responsible.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: That’s right. At that time, Kim Hyeon-cheol almost intervened in state affairs.

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: That's right. And the older brothers of the late former President Roh Moo-hyun and former President Lee Myung-bak also had a number of problems, but they did not affect the president's behavior any more, so I expressed that the legal principle has become stricter. So, I hope that stricter rules of law will be equally applied to all those in politics after former President Park Geun-hye. That's what I'm talking about, including the leaders of the Moon Jae-in government. And that was at my national convention that the same or stricter standards should be applied not only to the Moon Jae-in government, but also to our People’s Power government, which should come to power, or even when our candidate Yoon Seok-yeol became president. When I asked for a position, I gave an answer in a similar context.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: What was the first thought that came to your mind? I thought it would be like this in the end, but it took a long time in the end. thank God. What do you think?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: It's a very complicated idea. I'm the one who got me into politics. Of course, even when you were in English, of course, you would have had the opportunity to watch TV shows or things like this, but I also wonder what you will think of me when you see me. This isn't a sarcastic thing at all, because when you recruited me, you probably didn't even look at me and didn't hire me. But now that this has happened, I have mixed feelings. So later, I made a statement today, but I've been hearing about former President Park's very bad health for several months, so I'm going to try to find out what the situation is about that part, even through the people around him.

▷ Young-jin Joo/Anchor: I saw a picture that CEO Jun-seok Lee posted on social media a while ago. The headband was worn by former President Park Geun-hye during a campaigning somewhere, but I hope they will wear it on their head once again when they leave office after fulfilling the presidency well. I posted something like that. What was your mind at that time?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: So, Facebook has the function of digging people's hearts, but there are cases where it shows content that was posted several years ago on the same date.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: That’s right.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: But that was exactly what I posted on December 21st. Former President Park Geun-hye was elected on December 19. I have as a souvenir the headband that former President Park Geun-hye wore at the last Gwanghwamun rally. At that time, I was then on December 21, 2012. At that time, what I had in mind was President Park, and after I finished my role as a non-commissioned member, I return to my main job as a programmer, but when I retire later, I would like to give this as a present again if there is an opportunity someday. I said that I would like to give it to you when you retire as a successful president, but as you all know, it is difficult to evaluate that you retired as a successful president through impeachment, so I had mixed feelings.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Is there no longer any need to give the headband to former President Park Geun-Hye?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: Let's think a little bit. At that time, there were various circumstances within our party, so I sat in front of the computer and thought about what it meant to help the president make a president. However, it seems that the obsession with my own trauma that I have to make a successful president is still strong, after the impeachment.

▷ Young-jin Joo/Anchor: I was introduced to politics by former President Park Geun-hye, but I am pro-Park to CEO Lee Jun-seok. I do not remember using this expression in the media.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: It's because they're doing it too.

▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Former President Park Geun-hye recruited him. At that time, CEO Lee Jun-seok was in his 20s?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Yes. I was in my twenties, twenty-seven.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: 27 years old. and 10 years. At that time, I think CEO Lee Jun-seok felt it. In politics, after recruiting young people into the political realm, a certain part of the youthful image is consumed, and when it is judged that it is no longer useful, no one takes care of that person. Did you feel these things? How is it?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Back then, in 2012, we actually had quite a lot of young politicians participating in politics. Among them, there is probably only me and Rep. Jang Gyeong-tae working together in the National Assembly building in Yeouido. To that extent, it is similar in any area of ​​society, but the political area of ​​Yeouido is sometimes difficult to sustain, especially for young people. So some people seemed to be a little ahead, but on the other hand, there were cases where they stood in the wrong line and quit politics right away. And there are cases where I was defeated three times and became the party leader. Because it is a very difficult road, there is no solution, but the true challenge itself is a march of hardship.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Today, CEO Jun-Seok Lee and Young-Jin Joo appeared in a news briefing. Viewers, you must have a lot of questions. We are also broadcasting live on YouTube at the same time. If you watch YouTube and leave a comment and ask a question, “I am curious about this,” we will compile it in the middle and ask some questions to CEO Lee Jun-seok.

▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Lee Jun-seok, fell three times and became the party leader of the first opposition party in June. A young politician in his mid-30s, who had never been a member of the National Assembly, became the leader of the first opposition party. There was a lot of anticipation and the popularity of the first opposition party increased a lot, but recently, I was disappointed to see Chairman Lee Jun-seok. Are you not interested in regime change or are you just doing your own politics? You must have seen and heard these criticisms and criticisms.

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: When people get angry, all the stories come out. We need a target for the expression of that anger and anger, and now that our party's candidate has a somewhat stagnant approval rating, I understand where to complain about it and what to do about it. It is a distortion of I would have declared that the first road I would have chosen was going to Jongno if I had tried to do my own politics. What could be more glorious for me than being a member of the National Assembly after I've been dropped three times? However, although I do not choose that path and in fact, there are many cases where the party leader sits in the front seat of the party with his form, but it is rare to have a daily meeting and do this in charge of public relations.

However, when he chose to do it, he had the will to see his own election practice within it. well. I have endured all these insults and comments on YouTube until now. But, for example, last time after the Ulsan Agreement, when me and the candidate had various schedules together, they were caught in a photo together and wore red clothes together, so I planned the election to stand out as much as the candidate. I received this kind of misunderstanding and made a lot of mistakes, but well. I wonder if what I need more in Korea right now is fame? I don't think there are many people who don't know Lee Jun-seok. That's why I always live with caution, either to raise my awareness or to give me an advantage in elections. There are no elections I ran, now. That's why making such assumptions was a very insulting remark to me. But now, here's something. In fact, even in the case of a play held in Daehangno and a meeting with people in the arts and culture.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: That’s when there was an article saying that candidate Yoon Seok-Yeol handed the microphone to CEO Lee Jun-Seok because he couldn’t answer, right?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: But that's because if I watch the video upside down in full, the candidate gives me a microphone first. I didn't take the mic, and I didn't do it first. It must have been that the candidate had 9 questions. The first answer was whether there were 7 candidates out of 9. The two questions also included questions about the party's policy, so the candidate handed the microphone to me in case the candidate did not know what the party's policy was, and fear might conflict. But there are a few people in the world who just want Jun-seok Lee to go wrong by watching them push him like this, saying he does it to shine. That's the kind of thinking I'm going to hold on to.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: So, while looking at the recent series of processes and the selection of CEO Jun-Seok Lee, I have already seen that question and answer in the interview. There is a need for this, but will CEO Lee Jun-seok's choices and actions really help that goal? Isn't it true that there are many voices of people who support the power of the people who are tilting their head against this?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Regarding what is called the predecessor, the former captain will say something like this. It was the same in the Seoul mayoral election. The same goes for the presidential election. Usually, it takes only 10 people to come back to their senses, any predecessor. However, the rest are usually made up of political considerations or other factors. In particular, in the current situation where the previous captains are in such a difficult situation, reorganization is absolutely necessary in a big frame. In the past, there was confusion at the beginning of the presidential election in 2012 when former President Park Geun-hye was elected.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: I don’t go home after leaving the field bed, from now until the end of the presidential election.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: It is the person who made sure to play the role of chairperson. And I remember being one step closer to winning the election. Even if I'm like this right now, I'm in such a mess. Especially now there are structural problems. Unlike in the past, our candidate created six general headquarters with the intention of involving many people. Among them, there is the PR and Media Division, which I was in charge of. However, if this happens, the six general headquarters will be placed in a horizontal system, making it difficult to effectively coordinate work. It became difficult to coordinate work effectively. That's the problem with that part right now. But I am, for example, something like this. Now that I am the general manager of public relations and media, I keep getting mad at me to make card news. By the way, card news is something that, if you think about it, contains a very specific political message. But without it, just make card news. you make it It's not made this way, but that kind of request comes in.

▷ Young-jin Joo/Anchor: For example, please make a card news critique of candidate Lee Jae-myung. Was it such a demand? How is it?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: That's it. Just make a card news that responds to the suspicion of something. But what to include, then there is no discussion about it. So, in a place that promotes this, in fact, you have to bring a message function as well. It has both a political plan and a message. So when I go to meetings, what do I always say, what is our grand strategy? The first thing I talked about before it happened at the meeting where Rep. Jo Su-jin caused a scandal last time is that the issue of the candidate's spouse is being taken very seriously now, so then, shouldn't we have a big frame of mind? Are you up for a breakup? Or is it to explain in some cases where it is possible to explain, and to take a lower stance on the rest? Shouldn't this strategy be decided in order to set the card news accordingly? For example, will it be made by emphasizing the unfair part or by making it in a low-key tone? Or are you going to pretend that there is really no problem? Without that strategy, work requests and instructions keep coming and going, so this is a mess.

So, I tried to point out those points, but when I talked about it at the meeting, I asked why are we discussing it here, so first of all, I got angry.

Then where do you decide?

If the general election chairperson and the election chairperson are all present, who is to decide?

In the end, no one decides.

Even now, if you hold on to our party's predecessors and say, for example, what is the grand strategy, then you won't be able to answer?

Whether it's self-defense, or some wife, or some explanation, some something.

may not know.

In the absence of a grand strategy, each is sending troops one after another to the front.

It's a situation in which one person goes to the front line and collapses.

But this is what makes me so heartbroken, about two years ago, when I sat here and broke my opponent every day, when the Minister of Homeland was in trouble.

Why can't you respond in such a simplistic way?

Are you defending the Minister of Homeland?

Or do you see there is a problem?

It was a mess, then the Democratic Party.

But now the situation is the same.

▷ Young-jin Joo/Anchor: Then, what is the really fundamental reason why CEO Jun-seok Lee made this choice this time? I guess.

Conflicts and clashes with Rep. Jo Su-jin would have been a decisive moment, and such problems have already occurred before that.

Therefore, CEO Lee Jun-seok cannot win the presidential election with such a predecessor.

In particular, there is a problem in responding to Kim Gun-hee.

However, candidate Yoon Seok-yeol and politicians who are so-called 'Yun Hak-kwan' do not give any message about it and just want to defend it.

Was this the biggest problem?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: For example, if the strategy was to defend the organization, I was able to defend it. So, if it was decided that I would rather defend myself, I was confident that I would defend myself. Even if I was insulted, I was able to do it through personal sacrifice. But there's no work. Then I got it on the first day. I mean, at that time, suspicions were raised through YTN media reports at 4 a.m., so I went to a radio station at 7 a.m., but you probably remember how I reacted like this in the first place. I think it is an overstatement to hold the candidate responsible for the spouse's work for what happened before the candidate's marriage. Since I have no response, I took the best response from my point of view. But when I came back, a bullet flew at me from behind. I don't know what to do, so. So, in a situation where there is no strategy, we have no choice but to respond individually, and then such loopholes are exposed.

And what's even more strange is that the election committee is usually like this, exposing problems in response, and a person who is about the same as the standing election chairperson resigns. Then people with real intentions quit the line, usually. Let the candidate resign in order to catch up with some improvement. That's what the Democrats did, actually. Because of the difficulties in the early stages, it was all because the original previous captain gave up his role and candidate Lee Jae-myung formed the previous captain to have a grip around him. In fact, there were rumors that CEO Song Young-gil resigned at that time. That's a natural situation, but I actually take responsibility first and carry the gun, so that's where the attack comes in right now. I just mean that there are a lot of people who are greedy for their job, my interpretation. It's a temporary job, as the former captain said. What's wrong with quitting this? But in order for the candidate or Chairman Kim Jong-in to win it thoroughly, it is necessary to create a space so that it can be reconstructed, and no one thinks of self-sacrifice. They're all holding their seats right now. The longer this period lasts, the more the candidate will suffer and eventually rebuild.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: According to the story I heard, is CEO Jun-Seok Lee the head of the Media Promotion Division?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Yes.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: There were a lot of people who said that I would do it again after I quit. I've heard of this too, right?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: There are names I've heard too. I have no regrets. Once those characters are publicly named later, get evaluated.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Then, even if CEO Jun-Suk Lee talks about it several times here, one of the walls that CEO Jun-Seok Lee has very difficult to break through is 'Nevertheless'. Nevertheless, it was only just yesterday that Yoon Seok-yeol and Candidate Yoon Seok-yeol agreed to do well together in Ulsan and went to Busan together wearing red clothes. Shouldn't you have solved it and solved it directly with the candidate? As this was released through the media, the people's power, the people's power Candidate Yoon Seok-yeol, the election leader, was literally in a mess and gave only the image that there was no hope in this place, and criticized whether the possibility of regime change or victory in the presidential election was reduced.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: So, if we look at the facts dryly, I talked about it at the meeting. I talked about problems with the conference body, really. I talked about the problem at the meeting, and it is true that the contents of the meeting were reported to the outside, but let's make a grand strategy for this issue in the meeting to which I belong. And in the meeting, in the presence of others, I gave directions to the person with authority. I was told to deal with this kind of problem, but first of all, he said no. I refused. Then it's a protest. Then I would say that if I do not correct this for this situation, there is no point in carrying out my duties. When I was told how to deal with this issue like this in a seat where there are dozens of people at the general manager level or higher, when I said, "I will not listen to you and listen to the candidates," I have to correct it. It's not like I just went out and resigned after hearing that. During the period of 1 night and 2 days, I constantly demanded the expression of that greeting. But first of all, he didn't have the courage to make that appointment, so the other officials in the election committee and the candidates would have heard of the controversy, and he would have understood the circumstances before and after, but the candidates would not have resolved it.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: The candidate said, "That kind of conflict is democracy." This is what I told reporters. were you sad?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: It's not that I'm sad, but I took the meaning of it accurately. If that's democracy, I'm telling you to leave, if that's democracy. No, I don't really want to democratize that way, I think. That's why it's telling me to leave, so I'm out, just.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: So, I don’t know if this is because of the age issue after becoming president, but has it always been that senior leaders within the party or candidate Yoon Seok-Yeol from within the party have been formed and then elected, then CEO Jun-Seok Lee has been marginalized? Were you lonely? How is it?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: I think there is such a thing. There are some things that are good in Yeouido politics, but when I say hello as the party representative or when I make various judgments, I really followed the principles a lot more than I thought. So, for example, although it is not a nomination, for example, when we do things like the special committee, look at the case of appointing regional managers. The person who used to swear on YouTube every day became the chairman of the Party Association. I made it for a contest. So, since I follow the principles, it seems that Lee Jun-seok doesn't really care about me now, even if people know my style and even curse at me. Me and Kim Jae-won, the top committee member, are always smiling. "CEO, you're cool." So, go to the broadcast and do your own thing.

▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: Kim Jae-won, the Supreme Councilor?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Yes, Kim Jae-won, Supreme Councilor, goes to other broadcasts and says what's going on with CEO Lee Jun-seok every day, but I know because I've tried broadcasting.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: I was at Joo Young-Jin's news briefing on the day I collided with Rep. Jo Su-Jin. Kim Jae-Won was very careful as a member of the Supreme Council, right?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Yes?

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: "I won't talk about it because if I say just one word, it will cause trouble."

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: No one is as quick-witted as Kim Jae-won. On that day, no one could see, I did it because of the fact that Supreme Councilor Jo Su-jin had nothing to say. Also, when I am criticized, even if Kim Jae-won goes and talks about it, I do not say anything that I hate because of it. That's because Supreme Councilor Kim Jae-won is also making his own political decisions, but he pointed out that Cho Su-jin's remarks were not based on political judgment, but because he showed a lot of empathy and the entire system of the previous leadership could be shaken. there it is So, in that regard, some people these days think that the fact that I don't point out too much to people about the way I run the party before alienation can give a wrong impression. So, which part is now undermining the discipline of the party in the future. Again, I filed a complaint with the Ethics Committee for people who said very strange things about me and I did this.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Are you Assemblyman Yong-Nam Kim?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: Yes, yes. So, we will actively correct that part. Because I think this is a good thing.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: I saw the article again and saw an article on social media. People who say, “Why does CEO Jun-seok Lee keep doing this?” This is just people who like the power of the people or the opposition, but I don’t feel burdened by being viewed like that. ?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: I will say this. So, how embarrassing is the situation right now, as if going to the radio and talking about the allegations that the party leader was wasting some party money without knowing it was a great activity for the captain, he was out of his mind what he was doing. I'm not trying to study the allegations raised about the candidate right now, but I'm not researching anything like that, but I go to the radio somewhere and the party president picks up a lot of people and knows how much these people use. Only two people were elected, after becoming the party leader. Five former party leaders were elected. I don't have anyone driving. Because why do I need someone who drives me, my salary would have to be at least 4 or 5 thousand.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Didn't Ttareungi ride for a while?

▶ Jun-seok Lee/President of the People's Power Party: Even now, I still use public transportation and Ttareungi, and if I don't get it, I drive it with my own car. So, if you are a person who is stupid enough to think that you can do something to help yourself in this situation after coming in with a personal attack with that kind of thing, you shouldn't be in the senior ranks.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Then, when we discuss the situation of the previous captain up to this point, especially now that I have heard about Mr. Kim Gun-hee in public, then people close to or on the side of candidate Yoon Seok-yeol will say, “You shouldn’t talk in this kind of place. It's leaking. We'll discuss it later." Have you been like this all the time?

▶ Jun-seok Lee/President of the People's Power Party: It is true that there was such a talk, but if it all leaks out, shouldn't it be discussed in another unit? Then, shouldn't the permanent election chairperson know what unit the discussion is in? Or, "CEO, let's have a meeting together." it's not like this "Anyway, we'll figure it out on our own." Going this way, from my point of view, is not a normal captain. So, what I keep pointing out is that you keep going out and talking, but I talk everything inside and if it doesn't work, I talk outside.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Did you have no communication with Candidate Yoon? The problem was that candidate Yoon Seok-yeol eventually apologized.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/President of the People's Power Party: I communicated with Candidate Yoon Seok-yeol about this issue a lot. I am well aware of the candidate's position. Aside from knowing the candidate's position, it is up to them to discuss how they will respond. And depending on the case, the candidate has already apologized, but if further action is needed, then the candidate should be protected as much as possible and the previous captain should think about what to do. However, I don't know what unit the decision was made, but Su-jin Cho, a member of the Supreme Council, suddenly appeared and held a press conference to defend the suspicions about the candidate's spouse's career with eight professors and lawmakers.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: It's not a big deal because part-time instructors are always hired like that. Was this the purpose?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: But to be honest, I don't know who judged that it was helpful in interpreting the situation, but I stopped the press conference because I thought I had such command and planning authority. That's all, so. I thought that if I was the permanent election chairperson, basically, and if I was the party leader, I had the commander's epaulet attached to me, regardless of whether I had a three-star rank. But to the Supreme Council member Jo Su-jin, that must have happened because I did not see myself as a commander. It's a bit difficult for me to come up with these issues one by one, but that's why I'm saying that I didn't have a role in my predecessor.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: At first glance, I do not understand. I communicated well with Candidate Yoon, and I have communicated with Kim Gun-hee several times, so I am well aware of Candidate Yoon’s thoughts. There is no such thing, and in the election committee, the candidates and the representative are well aware of such issues, so we have to deal with it in that direction, but no such discussion took place at all. I don't quite understand this.

▶ Jun-seok Lee/President of the People's Power Party: When I asked to clarify what our grand strategy was through public communication on the spot, I wasn't trying to break the will of the candidate. I answer when a candidate calls. However, if you look at this place, there are people who cannot communicate directly with many candidates, so we want to make a great principle at the level of our predecessors. Of course, each of us can share what we have heard from the candidates, or we can do it, but at least there has to be some clear plan. But there was no process.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: What are you going to do in the future and what should you do? This seems to be frustrating for the people who look at the power of the people or the predecessors of the people, but CEO Lee Jun-seok continues to be the target of criticism regardless of his will, and he keeps hearing stories about whether he is obstructing the election. Isn't that true? Don't you know?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: Chairman Kim Jong-in will take care of it. you know how to do it

▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: But you said that Chairman Kim Jong-in would also have a hard time?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: I think that behind Chairman Kim Jong-in's failure to completely dismantle his predecessor, he did not actually have that much grip. So, since I know roughly what the situation is, I am not in a situation where I can evaluate Chairman Kim Jong-in at all. But many people are talking about rebuilding or remodeling, but now I think it's not remodeling, it's just painting and going again. I think I'm just going to try to paint again. Well. Someday, there will be talk of destroying everything again, again.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Then, even if I hear the story, the thoughts of Candidate Seok-Yeol Yoon still need to be painted like he said now. I have a feeling it's something like this, but what about that story as a result?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: It is entirely the decision of the candidate. And in general, what do you do because there are 70 days left before the election? It must have been about 70 days ago when President Kim Moo-seong actually reorganized the election camp as general manager.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: Then I don't think we have much time. I think there are about 75 days left.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Yes. However, everything is the candidate's decision and it is up to the candidate to decide.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: So, when the CEO talks like this, isn't that kind of criticism?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: So, I am also a human being, and I am listening to all kinds of criticisms. But I can't match it. When you go with a candidate, you try to stand out. So don't go together. If you say you don't want to go together, why does the CEO stand by? And Lee Jun-seok should resign. So, you resigned as a senior captain, but why are you resigning? So I just can't do anything about this worldview. So I'm just going to do what I want, now.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: I will do whatever I want. I will faithfully perform my duties as a representative. So what can we do, in the course of the election?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: The leader has a lot of work to do. For example, I have to hold a re-election right now, and I have to prepare for it, and besides that, there are quite a few other party duties. For example, as the party representative, there are events where I have to attend the party, and I have to give a lot of congratulatory speeches, and I will do my best to be sincere.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: People who watch YouTube have sent questions to CEO Jun-Seok Lee, saying they are really curious about this. Shall I take a look now? I don't know if the screen is ready. First of all, 'There seems to be a problem with continuous communication with Candidate Seok-Yeol Yoon. If so, what is the reason?' I don't even know if the answer has been answered. How is it? Communication is good.

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: So, this is it. Candidates are too busy to ask for everything. But that doesn't mean the candidates can't communicate. But many of you will remember our conversation after the Ulsan Agreement. So, what we set out for the grand principle at that time was that there was one in the three-part agreement that everything should be done in consultation with the candidate, the representative, and the floor leader. It was agreed that increasing communication and policy steps towards 2030 is the grand strategy of this election. When it comes to prioritizing party affairs, if a candidate makes a request to the party leader, the party leader unconditionally accepts the request. You can see whether these three things have been observed or not. Then the candidate said this in a press interview. "Lee Jun-seok says if you want to do it, go if you want to go." I talked like that.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: It was.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Those words were actually a very big political declaration of the candidate. Many politicians accepted it, at least, saying, "Ah, in the management of the predecessor, you gave Lee Jun-seok a green epaulette." It was. That is why he said that he had at least a certain part of the power to command, but when he actually exercised his right to vote, wasn't Rep. Jo Su-jin objected? At that time, the agreement was largely cracked, so it is a situation that has no choice but to look at it like this. So, did you have any communication with me before Candidate Yoon said, "That's democracy," and expressed various de facto opinions. It wasn't. That's why I had no choice but to accept the doctor that way.

▷ Joo Young-jin/Anchor: It seems that Lee Jun-seok is probably the most unfair to say that he is not acting lightly as the party leader, but I think it is also true that there are many people who actually see it like this.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Politically, many misunderstandings can arise, and in reality, people fall down because of those misunderstandings. But, at least in the process of coping with this issue, as I said before, why did you go out and talk about it, it was at a meeting. So, in a situation where I am excerpting some facts and going like that or believing what I want to believe, I don't know how I'll deal with it, but I'll do what I want to do.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: Is Candidate Seok-Yeol Yoon visiting the Honam region this time? During my visit to Gwangju, I inevitably came into the power of the people, for regime change. By the way, did CEO Jun-seok Lee say that there are some forces that are trying to be established on a radio show recently?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: Yes, it is.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: It seems like this is a little bit intertwined.

▶ Jun-seok Lee/President of the People's Power Party: It is not a matter to think about because it is connected with the candidate's remarks. In the end, even if the candidate wins, wouldn't it be a very different situation?

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: That’s right.

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: If it's 180 to 100, it's a very big female-dominated phase, but I see myself as needing some degree of political reorganization, apart from the faction I'm trying to establish. That's why there seems to be some people who need various preparations or imaginations for political reorganization, but there are quite a few of those people in the party. And it's a story I've dug on the floor of Yeouido.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: And CEO Jun-Seok Lee also said that. There's a lot of talk that says, "The election is entirely the candidate's responsibility." Then, if the result is good, it is the candidate's ball, and if the result is bad, it is the candidate's responsibility. Wouldn't it be possible to point out and criticize CEO Lee Jun-seok from there, saying he was trying to leave some room in advance?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: If you tell us how Lee Jun-seok can get out if our candidate loses, I will study it. I'll tell you this. Responsibility and authority are taken in proportion. That is why, when I actually lost command and when the incident occurred, my responsibility and authority were disappearing at the same time. I was talking about expressing my intentions, and while Rep. Jo Su-jin rejected it and interpreted that the candidate was also a democracy, my authority and responsibility were blown away at the same time. To protect that, I asked Rep. Jo Su-jin to make a statement.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: If Candidate Seok-Yeol Yoon wins, it is natural that Jun-Seok Lee's political life will continue, but I don't know what path he will take. But if Candidate Seok-Yeol Yun loses, will President Jun-Seok Lee's politics stop there or will it continue?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: I hate to imagine that there would be bad results, but if that happens, I think I will have a lot of new thoughts about the direction of fundamentally reforming the party. Because there were a lot of disappointing things from the primary process this time, so I think there will be things that I personally need to heal. And I think we need to find the meaning of doing politics again. After I became the party leader even if I died soon, I created a culture in which young people participate in the party and brought up many things that had been done in the secret room to the sunny side. But from a certain point, there are many points where I felt very disillusioned by seeing the previous pitching coming out ahead of the big chapter of this presidential election.

▷ Young-Jin Joo/Anchor: In the future, as a representative and about candidate Yoon Seok-Yeol's policies and visions, the CEO goes to another place to explain, and does this role, how about?

▶ Lee Jun-seok / People's Power Party Leader: If it becomes Gong Yoo.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: What if it is shared?

▶ Lee Jun-seok/People's Power Party Leader: Yes. However, I will only speak from what I know because I have not received anything shared in that area until now.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: You came out in a difficult, busy process, but if you have a story that I would like to share with the viewers, please do.

▶ Jun-seok Lee/President of the People's Power Party: Actually, in the election process, there are always a lot of previous pitches or aspects like this, but this time, especially at our party's meeting, it was something we should never have shown, so I'm really sorry.

I do a lot of introspection myself.

Because I worry a lot about how I had to let these things happen, and I would like to devote my political life to renovating this kind of political culture in the future, really.

▷ Youngjin Joo/Anchor: I see.

This was an interview with Lee Jun-seok, representative of the People's Power.

I heard you well today.

※ For details, you can check the video.

(SBS New Media Department)