Miki Esparbé
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Manresa, 1983. In 2021 it has already released three series ('Reyes de la noche', 'El inocente' and 'Los espabilados'), another one is still waiting ('Stories to not sleep') and at the end of the month the comedy 'Where two fit'.
He's already abusing a bit.
You go out in everything lately. Series or movie that opens, there is Miki. Yes, it is great news, at least for me. Anyway, it shows how this sector of ours works, that we know when we shoot, but not when it will be released. Practically everything that has been released this year, except
Reyes de la noche
, I shot pre-pandemic, pre-quarantine and pre-all. Actually, so far this year, filming what is filming, I only filmed for three weeks with Paco Plaza for
Stories to not sleep
, which also opens at the end of the year. In the end, people believe that I work much more than I work.
But you do not lack.
Of course, of course. Absolutely. Obviously, having new things means that you are active and that everything is going well. I feel super lucky, I have two other projects at the end of the year, promotions of several stories at the same time, it's crazy. I hit a song in my teeth, no doubt.
To what extent does your work depend on streaks and fashions as much as it does on talent?
They certainly influence. What happens is that we interpreters are news in many parts of the process: when they catch you for a project it is news, that the project is going to be filmed is news, that filming begins is news, that filming ends is news, that is premieres the movie is news, good or bad reviews are news ... But from all that process, you live rehearsal, filming and promotion. That's it, not two months. So a strange and unequal relationship is generated between what is said about you and what you do. In recent years I have had a streak of these, keeping me in a place where I could more or less link projects and I feel very lucky because I have so many super talented friends who, to this day, have not had opportunities to that guy and I find it very unfair.That pushes me to take advantage of this moment because I don't know how long it will last. Currar and do my best is the only way I have that, if tomorrow they stop calling me, at least I can look back and think: "I did the best I knew how."
In 'Where two fit' you are a formal guy who goes out of control. You always sell that image of a serious and trustworthy guy, but do you have a B-face?
What happens to my character, more than being a formal guy, I think he's one of those guys who in high school were the kings of the party and you meet them years later and they have put on a suit and have become half foolish . This happens a lot in my generation: they have become a kind of clones and have lost the essence of who they were and where they wanted to go. I have consciously avoided that and I connect much more with the chaos. Forever. But I really like the trip of this guy who recovers the essence of who he is thanks to his cousin, because many people that I have been close to made that trip and did not return.
Appearing matters more today than being.
Exactly. In this society, this thing of believing that you are in a place where you are not even is thrown too much, of ostentation, living above your reality, looking over the shoulder of the one next to you, although he still earns more than you. So that? Why bear so much weight of the formal, the politically correct and the appearances if there is another life much more fun? Now, and social networks contribute a lot, they educate us to always be well and in simulated happiness and not in real life, frustration, fear, instability, anxiety ... My character, like so many similar to him, it is still one more victim of this system of ours.
The movie deals with society's sexual taboos and there are quite a few. Are we less open than we think?
I want to think no, but it is a complicated question because there are too many variables. For example: you and I are a generation connected to Twitter and what happens on Twitter is 5% of what happens in society in general. What conclusions can we draw from there? I want to think that we live in a society of change. We come from a generation that worked in everything until the body endured, physically and psychologically, and I think we are the revision generation, who bet on going to the physio and the psychologist to try to empty our backpacks a little to reload them with what we want and not with what is imposed on us. That is the portrait that I make of my generation and, just as we are breaking taboos in mental health, they are breaking in sexuality.
Which?
We come from a society in which adultery was something quite common, but very underground. Nobody talked about it. Today we are investigating what are the new ways of having a relationship, what are the updated ways of relating to try to have a healthy sexuality and love life. One thing does not remove the other. In the movie there is a couple who are getting married and, suddenly, they rethink where they are because they may be interested in sleeping with other people. This is something quite common within my environment, for example. I think it is a very festive movie and what he wants to tell is told from a super enjoyable, super close and super fun place. I think the movie is going to resonate, even being a summer comedy, because we are playing some keys that can open the minds of some people.
It would not hurt. Watching this wave of homophobic aggression, do you have the feeling that we are regressing?
I do not know, honestly, if it is that we are going backwards, or if it is a reaction of a few that groups like the LGTBI can finally go out on the streets living the life they want to live, showing their sexuality without fear once and for all. all of them, and there are those who do not like it. Whichever group you are, whatever your sexual tendency, it is our duty to go out and defend that tooth and nail. There is no other. It's totally disgusting what happened to Samuel and the gazillion other cases that are coming out. What I hope and wish is that we know how to manage this as a society so that it does not repeat itself, because we still have several scourges to deal with, such as gender violence or these homophobic attacks that make no sense in the society in which we live.I don't think we are going backwards or that new people with those tendencies are appearing. They have always been, the point is that now people feel free to be able to show even their most disgusting face.
Going to your penultimate premiere, 'Reyes de la noche', you have retired José Ramón de la Morena.
You see, my gosh, man (laughs). He retired on his own, uh, he said it before we premiered the series. We had the opportunity to go to his program and it was very nice to be able to speak with him directly about that period, about the series and contrast from you to you even if he did not like everything. Much appreciated.
Were you surprised by the majority reaction of sports journalism, very critical of the series?
Yes, I was surprised. It surprises me because they have contradicted themselves when attacking her: "This is not the case, it is invented." Of course, it is a fiction, that is precisely what it is about. Sometimes I get the feeling that we are demanding more from fiction than from politics, even. Honestly, seeing the response to
Reyes de la noche
I have realized that in Spain we still have a long way to go to be able to assume according to what type of fiction. Look at the case of
The Crown
, with characters that have real names but where things happen that did not happen in reality and people are not offended. In our case, we were inspired by a battle between two sports journalists to make a fictional story with fictional characters and fictional lives. And yet they tell us that since they are identifiable characters, it is offensive. I have been saddened to see that we have so much to move forward.
The cancellation of the series, already with the second season underway, has been strange. There has been talk of external pressures.
Yes, for us it has also been strange, I am not going to deceive you. But Movistar is a very wise platform, it knows how to manage its projects and they will know how to better explain the decisions they have made. It is very clear that the series, as far as I know, has worked well and has been seen by many people. From there, only Movistar knows what happened.
Well dodged that garden, so I'm going to put you in another. You live on horseback between Barcelona and Madrid ...
I almost prefer to talk about the other topic. Go, pull, pull (laughs).
Do you notice that the pardons have eased the tension?
I always advocate for dialogue and understanding above all else.
Forever.
So, I hope it calms everything down a bit so that we can bet on that dialogue.
It is the only way to understand each other, there is no more.
Either to go one way or the other, but it is the only way.
I hope and wish that the pardons relax the situation, really.
We will see.
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