The high-profile "gray bone conversation" was what made the police act and later arrest Karl Hedin and another of the accused.

The interception was played by the prosecutor in court during the fourth day of the trial.

Karl Hedin defended himself and denied everything: It was a joke - and they had not shot or intended to shoot any wolf.

During Thursday afternoon, the negotiations will continue in Västmanland District Court and then, among others, Karl Hedin's relative, who is heard in the conversation, will be questioned.

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