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Hanover (dpa) - In the dispute over the job and fleet reductions at Tuifly, pilots and management have come together for new discussions - a result is still a long way off.

Both sides adjourned on Thursday evening.

After the demolition in autumn, they had recently found each other again.

As a Tuifly spokesman said, the discussions should continue in the coming week.

A date has not yet been set.

Both sides have agreed not to disclose the state of affairs.

The core of the dispute is the question of whether Tuifly is willing to forego operational layoffs in the current austerity course for pilots beyond 2021.

The union Vereinigung Cockpit (VC) has made this a condition for an ongoing "crisis contribution" such as further short-time work.

The company refused to offer a longer-term employment guarantee.

Most recently, pilots and management got caught up in the issue of protection against dismissal.

Tuifly boss Oliver Lackmann was aiming for a basically “open-ended” restart of the talks, while VC wage policy boss Marcel Gröls called for mediation “without thinking bans”.

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From the company's point of view, a sustainable, structural reorganization of Tuifly in the medium term - also in view of the high overcapacities even before the Corona crisis - is only possible if there is a significant reduction in machines and jobs at the travel company's airline.

Therefore, one could not fall behind the last negotiation status from autumn, so Lackmann at the end of January.

This is the “maximum of what is economically feasible”.

From circles of the pilots it was said that the fear of the future is great among many colleagues.

Some members of other professional groups and works council chief Frank Jakobi had meanwhile demanded that the cockpit staff themselves have to make larger savings contributions: other employees continued to voluntarily forego considerable parts of their salary, while the short-time work regulation for the pilots was not extended at the end of November.

The VC argued that a fair offer without the threat of layoffs must be conceivable.

"We are aware that Tuifly should undergo a fundamental restructuring," said Gröls.

«Of course, it is our aim to accompany this change.

However, it is also our stated goal that the company should avoid dismissals as much as possible.

It is important that both sides re-examine what is possible. "

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In the meantime, Tuifly had offered as a compromise to reduce the number of 39 German aircraft to 22 instead of 17 and to cut 250 fewer jobs in the cockpit and cabin than originally planned.

But they stuck to the termination option.

Gröls came up with a counter-proposal: “If Tui said that nobody had to leave, but if necessary a compensatory amount were offered for colleagues who want to leave voluntarily - then I could imagine that costs could be reduced without redundancies having to pronounce. "

Group boss Fritz Joussen wants to cut around 8,000 jobs worldwide in view of the business slump in the pandemic.

This should mainly be done abroad.

But also at Tuifly, in travel agencies or in administration, significant cuts are planned.

In the summer, there was talk of up to 900 affected full-time positions at the airline - with around 2,000 full-time positions in total, including around 1400 pilots and flight attendants.

Parallel to the resumed talks, a so-called conciliation procedure is running under the Works Constitution Act in order to achieve a social plan and a balance of interests.

Tui said he wanted to stick to his own, completely self-operated airline.

But trade unionists are also concerned that only one type of fuselage will be left and that many jets will have to be hired externally in the future if demand picks up.

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Critics also point out that the Tui Group is already receiving billions in government aid in the fight against the slump in sales.

On the other hand, savings targets are also part of the conditions for loans and guarantees.

The group also operates its own feeders in Great Britain, Belgium, the Netherlands and Sweden.

TUI's European airline brands are now to be bundled according to the plans adopted by the Supervisory Board last June.

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