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Amarna Miller.

Madrid, 1990. He publishes'

Virgins, wives, lovers and whores

, a book in which he uses his own experiences to reflect on the role of women in society.

She was a porn actress, yes, but that did not define her then or, of course, today.

Virgins, wives, lovers and whores. Do you feel that these are the four categories in which society pigeonholes women? That's where the thing goes. The identity of women has been limited, and also constructed, by alien variables that have been imposed on us over the centuries. This has constricted our identity. Virgins, wives, lovers and whores are some of the main categories that have been imposed on women. The virgin ashamed of her innocence, the faithful wife, the lover who has to be hidden and the fox. They are all positions of alterity, because in the end, as we have not been the ones who have built our categories and our own identity, we have had to adapt to the vision that others had of us. It is a way of claiming that these categories also belong to us and that we have to re-signify and reappropriate them in an empowering way. Is it feasible to change the social meaning of categories with such a macho and insulting bias? Totally. And I think we have a very good reference within the LGTBI collective, which decided years ago to reappropriate the word fag and the word dumplings and re-signify them. Take what has been an insult, a word constructed to insult them, and make a flag of it. That is, you have insulted me with this, because now I use it from pride. With a bitch or a whore, women can and should do the same: reappropriate those words in a positive way. Why did you decide to write a book in which you tell such personal things as that you have suffered mistreatment and abuse? Too many times in my life I have learned by hitting me with a gigantic host and after giving me that host I thought: "Why doesn't anyone Have you talked about this before, if it is something that I now know that many of us have suffered? " Why are there so many issues related to women who are still silenced, who remain invisible? Now we are experiencing a change, an evolution for the better, but there are still many issues that are not being discussed. I have decided to speak them. This book is a way that I can chew my truth and get it out there, into the world. I am not trying to impose a dogma, I am not trying to say that what I think is the only thing that exists, but I believe that being a woman is a puzzle composed of many different links, which are our individual experiences, and putting all these experiences together creates the narrative of what that implies being a woman. And I want to contribute mine. You have been very involved in feminist movements for years, but in a book you expose unpopular theories within it, especially in your defense of porn and prostitution. With everything you've been through, do you already care what they think of you? We all care. It's a lie when people say they already have corn and that they don't care. I am vulnerable and I care. But I speak with pride about things that I know are going to be politically unconventional or that will not be within the canons, I do it from an intimate and beautiful place that I want to share with people who follow me or who want to know more about me. speech. Furthermore, it has been a long time since we have been able to speak of feminism in the singular. Feminisms are plural and they are many, and there are feminisms that contradict each other in the premises they want to achieve. The ultimate goal is the same in all, but the ways in which we are going to reach that goal differ and sometimes differ in very radical ways. We still live in this fallacy that there is only one dogmatic and totalitarian feminism and that in itself contradicts the idea of ​​a movement that is liberating. Can porn really be feminist? Yes, it can be. We tend to use pornography as a synonym for the pornographic industry and they are different concepts. The pornographic industry is what is coming to mind when you ask me that question: the videos you find on the internet ... And it is sexist, but pornography is not that. It is the representation of sexuality through a format. It can be the video, of course, but it can also be literature or there are frescoes in Pompeii that are pornographic. We get so focused on the idea of ​​the porn industry that we forget about all the other amazing depictions of sex that exist and they are very positive when it comes to developing ourselves as human beings, because sexuality is a part of our life and it is a part of our interaction with the world and with society. And the representation of that reality can help us to grow, to make references, to inspire us, to better understand our bodies and a thousand other things. What you have to do is take this, which is wonderful, and represent it in an equitable and feminist way. What happens? That we start from a base that is dodgy because the conventional pornographic industry has extremely macho things ... like so many other industries. I think that starting from this base it is easier to understand what I am talking about with feminist porn. You speak of an ideal, not a reality Well, I think there are people who are already doing it. It is a tremendously minority and you cannot find it in the free portals. You have to do your research and pay to get there, but it exists. I do not see it as an ideal but as something real. The truth is that if the industry is sexist, the normal thing is that the product is sexist and helps to spread a sexist message. The answer is yes, obviously, but we are talking about freedom, which is another wildly abstract concept. Are you really free working as a journalist in a capitalist framework that makes you have to work to live? I think that trying to simplify it is to lose the true nuances that this whole problem and all this history has. The way to move forward and to build a more equitable world is by seeking information and trying to understand the complexity of the matter, not silencing voices, crossing it out, denying it and trying not to exist. Porn may be feminist, but it won't be if no one believes in it. When you were (younger), you didn't consider yourself a feminist. It's true. I think it is something very from my generation, because keep in mind that we have very internalized this feminist wave that we are experiencing, but it is relatively new. When I was a teenager, the references that I had internalized as positive were tremendously macho. I now see with my perspective and current prism things that I adored when I was little and I put my hands to my head, starting with TV programs. For example, I loved the Grand Prix, but between test and test there were dancers in miniskirts, super short top ... And I remember consuming this when I was little and seeing it super normal and cool. All the series, all the products that we have consumed, were in that line. So when a friend at 18 or 19 asks me if I'm a feminist, my answer is "no." But out of absolute and pure ignorance, because I didn't know what it was. What opened your eyes? Life. The years, living my own experiences, looking for sorority, support, realizing that the things that I was experiencing were perhaps not individual experiences but were crossed by a prism that crosses us all, such as the stigma around the enjoyment of sex, the need for complacency or shame. Things that women have been instilled in us since we are very small and that I was 100% naturalized, which I had not questioned. Feminism for me has been a weapon of questioning, something that has allowed me to understand, first, that I am not alone in certain experiences in which I thought I was alone and, second, that there is a whole theory around it that I can investigate and analyze to understand my position, my identity and reflect on the things I do and why I do them. Does it continue to bother a woman in 2021 to talk openly about sex? I think that less and less and I think we have to start abandoning that discourse . That the Satisfyer has been sold so much seems crazy to me, delusional in the most positive sense of the word. So I think we have to start to get rid of that idea that it is still difficult for women to talk about sex, because I believe that in Spain it is changing and society is integrating it. A fundamental objective of feminism regarding sex is that women women assume the role of subject instead of object that has been historically assigned to them. Have you felt an object? It is a fundamental step and is in the process of being achieved. In my case I do not have a black or white answer, because it has been a deconstruction, a revisitation of my own experiences and it has led to reflection. In some areas of my life I have felt like an object because it is the social and cultural context in which I have lived. The problem is normalizing that, not realizing that you are a consequence. We all are, there is no pure individual, but feminism tries to create a context in which women have the greatest possible freedom when making our decisions. In that sense, it has served as a tool for me to better understand why I have made certain decisions in my life, but no longer in the sexual, I go to much simpler things: Why do I wax? Why is it when I go to the bathroom and have a tampon in my hand, do I hide it? Why am I ashamed to ask out loud, at a dinner with friends, for a compress? Why am I totally normalized to take a fashion magazine and that all the girls are perfectly shaved? And what answers have you given to those questions? There is a revisitation. For example, when I stopped waxing it was a wonderful turning point to pick up a magazine, see a picture of a girl with her arms up and think, "Oh, here's something weird" ... And it took a second to realize that what squeaked at me is that I was waxed. I was so proud and happy because it meant that, after millions of years, I had normalized that female hair is something cool, desirable and positive, that it is not just a way to claim something as many people think. It is simply part of me and it is not the enemy, it is something to be proud of and which is also the object of desire. All of these are conclusions that I have reached thanks to reflecting on these conditions that are imposed on us, that we naturalize and normalize without giving them any further thought. Like I have felt more object by having to wax than by what you are thinking. Prey of beauty canons that I had not chosen. You say that journalists always ask you the same questions, basically about porn. What questions would you like us to ask you that we don't ask? I always miss being asked more about emotional intelligence issues, because I think that a large part of both what was my job and my current job has to do with having I've learned to manage my emotions and criticism, have learned to have a socially uncomfortable position and have known how to move on, which sounds very obvious, but it is not so obvious. I miss them being more interested in that area of ​​my life. Well, how do you manage emotionally wanting to shelve a phase of your life, such as that of a porn actress, and that it never disappear completely? because I do not deny that past, I have never wanted to make a point and apart with that. For me it is a point and followed and I have taken it as such and I think my followers have also understood it, which surprised me at the time, but right now I am very naturalized. I was more afraid of what I could find when I left it than what I have actually experienced in my own flesh. Right now I am very happy, with a lot of jobs that I love and make me very happy. I feel privileged about how people have responded after that point and continued. Are we a better society than we think? It is not that either, but I think that sometimes we reverberate in our own speeches. Before you asked me if female sexuality is still limited by context and I think that by repeating that idea we are creating a reality in which female sexuality is limited by its context. It is a great irony. Of course my experience has been much more positive than I thought, but I will only think "'Damn, how good things are going" when I give an interview and they ask me only about what I am doing today and not what I did in the past. Yeah, but you do publish a book where you talk for quite a few pages of porn and your experience in it. Yes it's correct. It seemed important to me to talk about it, because it is a book in which I talk about sexuality from the first person. It seemed absurd, and even hypocritical, to omit that I have dedicated myself to an industry in which people work around sex. There was no point in not talking about it, but it is something in which I am less and less interested, not because I regret it or because I want to forget it, but because I am in other places in my life and my personality, which have nothing to do with sexuality and where I feel very comfortable. As I advance as a person, my public discourse and the way I present myself also evolve organically; forcing it or creating a strategy around it would make me not be myself, that I was a company or a brand, and I am not, I am a person. It seems realistic to me and a way of showing myself vulnerable to recognize that I am evolving, my speech evolves with me and I go to the places where I feel most comfortable. And where are you going? I really like to communicate, I love having a program and a podcast , I love talking about feminism and emotional intelligence, I love reflecting and delving into the issues that interest me and it's amazing to be able to have an audience that is as naughty as I am and loves doing this with me. Then, I have a degree in Fine Arts, I have exhibited and I love to explore everything that has to do with artistic creation. So I'm headed there. I know you have a chronic dislike of your interview headlines. Surely it is not the one I put, but what headline would you put this? I would like something related to the book and that had to do with feminism. I really like everything that we talked about at the beginning about the identity of women and about feeling alone in our experiences, because I think there is still a lot of emptiness there, a lot of fear to speak, to tell about the things we have felt because we have them unintentionally normalized. We have behaviors such as complacency, for example, very much in our heads, which is something very educational for women. We are still in the process of deconstruction; I at least am.

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