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Former Prime Minister Felipe González believes that Pablo Iglesias' positions from the Second Vice Presidency are not a mistake, but "stupid", while he harshly criticized Pedro Sánchez's budget negotiation for not giving concrete figures and consider agreements with those who do not want Spain to continue as a national project.

"When I manifest something that I do not agree with, they tell me that I am an opponent. Well, it is difficult to oppose what does not exist," said the former socialist leader during a virtual interview with

, general editor of

, the printed newspaper. most read in

, within the framework of the celebration of the 75 years of the environment.

González carefully analyzed world politics, throwing darts at Donald Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, Boris Johnson and Andrés Manuel López Obrador, among others, but it was before a question sent by a member of the audience that the former head of government fired up.

"Iglesias has described him as an open opponent of the government of the PSOE and Podemos," Kirschbaum read.

González did not miss the opportunity.

"No, no, no. I am always proactive. I propose more than I criticize, another thing is that others understand the proposals as criticisms. Yes, I believe that it is necessary to agree to carry out budgets. Spain needs it, it needs to have it. a budget for 2021, because it is incomprehensible for the European partners that we are governing with budgets prepared for 2018 with which it is falling ".

"We need to have sufficiently convergent investment plans to recover the 140,000 million euros, which is a lot of money, a lot of money. An anti-cyclical policy that could be part of our solution in a crisis like this. That they understand me as an opponent of the government, to my, who demanded the real opposition to the government not to question the legitimacy of the government, whether they like it or not ... If someone told me that my burden in Spanish political life today is that it costs me a huge effort to feel represented, look Wherever I looked, that was closer to the truth. "

Then came the moment of the direct attack on the leader of Podemos.

"I have just heard Mr. Iglesias speak that there is no need for the work of the state security forces and the help that the military has provided in the fight against the pandemic. I do not agree with that. It seems worse than a mistake, it seems stupid to me.

Does that make it be considered that I am against?

I am against some proposals. "

"They want to make a budget with partners from that debate on the motion of censure. It is peculiar, it worries me and I say it publicly, being in a country project, and budgets are the first step for that, with people who do not believes that the country should continue as a project. It seems to me a contradiction in its terms. Now, are you willing to agree on others? Well, I don't see it either, I don't see the PP willing to discuss a budget for 2021 ".

Without mentioning Sánchez at any time, González made it clear that if he were in La Moncloa, the budget negotiation would go along very different tracks.

"What worries me the most is that we have been debating for months who is willing to agree or not agree to the budgets and we still do not know a single figure. Not a single figure. We still don't know what the spending ceiling is, what the forecast is for We do not know any figures. The positions are preventive, just in case: what do you say, that I do not agree. When I manifest something with which I do not agree they tell me that I am an opponent. Well, it is difficult to oppose what it does not exist, "he concluded.

The former head of the government between 1982 and 1996 was also clear in his analysis of the crisis of the monarchy in Spain after the departure of King Emeritus Juan Carlos from the country.

And in that analysis he found again his favorite target: Iglesias.

"I prefer this republican monarchy, of respect for the republic, which is neutral in the political game (...). Of the 20 democracies with the best qualifications that exist in the world, 12 are parliamentary and constitutional monarchies. Some of those who are attacking the monarchy, not only because there are responsibilities attributed to the emeritus king, but because they are against the monarchy, they are not against the monarchy only: they want to replace the monarchy, among others is Pablo Iglesias proclaiming it, by a Plurinational republic with the right of self-determination. Therefore, with the seed of self-destruction of Spain as a nation-state and as history. Well. I am radically against that. And with what I have left of strength and with what I have in the future I will fight it. "

In González's criticism, his aversion to the fact that the nationalists are partners of the Sánchez government was noted once again: he believes that they do not serve to shape budgets because they do not serve to build Spain.

"This monarchy that I described as republican, and that has the behavior of a presidency that does not govern, and is representative, I prefer it to a republican like the one that some claim, the kind they call plurinational and with self-determination rights. less doubt ".

González also distinguished himself from another socialist who held the presidency of the government, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, by analyzing the situation in Venezuela.

"(Nicolás) Maduro exercises de facto power. It has no legitimacy of origin or exercise. I believe that it is more a tyranny than a dictatorship, I have lived many years in a dictatorship and I fought it. It was repulsive, but it had rules. Venezuela's problem is that it has no rules. "

Zapatero promoted, without success, a process of dialogue between the Maduro regime and the opposition.

González, without saying it, hinted that with Maduro there is no possible success through dialogue.

"Maduro has said that he will never call an election again to lose them. And that truth is not going to get off.

I hope that the democratic international community does not play the game of elections called (...) not including in the census the five million Venezuelans who have had to flee from that paradise.

I would like a minimum agreement from the opposition not to participate in elections in which the dictator chooses his opponents.

It is a tyranny that has turned Venezuela into a failed state.

History will demand it seriously. "

The former leader of the PSOE also had time to analyze Donald Trump in the face of the November 3 elections in the United States.

"You have the president of the United States saying that he does not trust the vote by mail in an election that is going to be held in the middle of a pandemic, what is he trying to say? What is he announcing? That when the face-to-face votes are counted, Is he going to proclaim the winner? Before the mail-in ballots? One is extremely saddened to think that if Trump is given four more years of opportunity, he will complete his work of destroying America's ability to serve as a leading world power. It will leave the United States isolated and in a secondary role in world politics. "

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