The Moderate Leader agrees that the need for additional support is greatest among small businesses and that it has been difficult for them to access several of the measures packages already submitted by the government.

Wrongly shut out the big companies

But he thinks it is wrong to close the big companies out of the 100 billion a month he has proposed as new support.

- Even large companies are faced with very large fixed costs. Yes, you can say that they have money, but they may have been affected by the fact that a very large proportion of their turnover just disappears, says Ulf Kristersson to Agenda's program manager Anna Hedemo.

Although they have distributed billions to their owners?

- Yes, which is the point in a normal functioning market economy.

"Best investment"

He also saw the idea that the state should join as a co-owner of exporting companies that have received billion grants.

Isn't that a way for taxpayers to get some payback?

- The big "payback" is a company that hires people and produces things that society needs. The fact that these companies survive this crisis is by far the best investment that politics and the state can make right now.

"A natural disaster"

Kristersson believes that the companies cannot be blamed for the crisis they now face.

- We are not talking about companies that have misunderstood or taken unnecessarily large risks. This is a natural disaster that affects Swedish health care and Swedish economic life. Then I think you should do everything you can to make those companies survive as they are and be able to come back as soon as the crisis is over.

"Government unwilling"

He is critical of the government, which he thinks is doing too little.

- They are too slow. They are reluctant. They seem to think this solves itself. It doesn't, says Ulf Kristersson.

Finance Minister Magdalena Andersson (S) was invited to debate the issue in Agenda but declined to participate.