[Ju Young-jin's News Briefing]

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■ Broadcast: SBS <Ju Young-jin's News Briefing> Mon ~ Fri (14: 00 ~ 16: 00)
■ Progress: Ju Young-jin Anchor
■ Dialogue: Former Judge Lee Tan-hee
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▷ Ju Young Jin / Anchor: This is quite impressive. When ordinary people are faced with the most unpleasant moments in their lives, they must create a fair justice system where they can believe and judge. I'm Judge Lee Tan-hee. Welcome to. First of all, the Democratic Party's Gyeonggi-do Yong-in?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former judge: Yes, yes.

▷ Ju Young-jin / Anchor: Are you confirmed?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former judge: Yes.

▷ Ju Young Jin / Anchor: What do you think?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: I felt a sense of responsibility. In fact, some reports have been made, but it was last fall that Chong-won Chun won the district and I was first offered to participate in political affairs. So now I have a meeting with Park Joo-min, but the starting point was actually Chong-won Chun-won, but when I see him, I don't run, but shouldn't I continue my hope anyway? I had made such a suggestion, so I finally came back and I came back to this position.

▷ Ju Young-jin / Anchor: Have you registered as a candidate?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: Not yet.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: I haven't done it yet, so I can't meet voters or do anything like this.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: We haven't started yet. We are preparing quickly.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: In this situation, the situation in Corona 19 becomes so serious that former Judge Lee Tan-hee who is determined to have politics will have a lot of burdens and worries. Don't you have to go beyond the worry of yourself, your family, or have you decided to politicize?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Judge: Yes. Of course. And beyond the court reform and the prosecution reform, I'm going to be interested in all things related to the lives and safety of our people and to politics to protect them.

▷ Ju Young Jin / Anchor: Can you give me advice on how to move around in this situation?

▶ Judge Lee Tan-hee: I have a lot of advice, but I think I should listen to the attitude of understanding people's minds and understanding them.

▷ Ju Young Jin / Anchor: Many people know about former judge Lee Tan Hee, but there are many who do not know. Why did you decide to quit your job as a judge?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: In fact, some have been known, but I've already been in 2017 for three years. My life has changed a lot since I resigned that I would not go to the Office of the Yang Seung-tae Administration Officer in 2017. Then, after two years or so, both chief justices were arrested, but in the process, I lost my virtue as a judge by becoming a political symbol. I thought about it at the time, so in the end, who didn't speak first, but I put myself off as a judge. I started a new career as a public lawyer and worked for about a year. Unfortunately, Chief Justice Kim Myung-su showed a lot of different behavior than I expected when he retired.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: Oh, the current Supreme Court chief Kim Myung-soo.

▶ J. Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: Yes, I remembered in May 2019 that I actually gave indulgence to most of the 66 judges who were notified at the time. You may have guessed what I felt at that time. So, after that, I started to speak at the same time as a public law attorney, while at the same time speaking about court reform, prosecution reform, and power agency reform. I have this idea. And in that extension, I decided to participate in politics.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: Many people know that during the time of the Supreme Court, Yang Seung-tae, the judicial farming group was often called. In such a situation, former judge Lee Tan-hee could not watch the situation. You judged it was unfair?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: Right. You specifically asked me to check the judges or ask me a lot of very deceptive actions, and I resigned that I did not fit the judge's order. Then what happened after that is actually a process of struggle to reveal the truth. I've been through these processes for about two years and I've learned a lot about the world and I'm born again.

Young-Jin Joo / Anchor: It is important for us to reform for the further and important steps of our society. This is probably the topic of our time now, in any field.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former judge: Right.
▷ Ju Young-jin / Anchor: But if the reform in the courts is not easy, it would not be simple to become a member of the National Assembly to bring about judicial reform and court reform.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former judge: Of course. But I believe that now our country can take the universal way that most developed countries take. But judicial reform will eventually be punishment for offenders, and secondly, institutional reform to prevent recurrence. Both are disciplines that will eventually lead to impeachment of the offenders, and the plans to prevent recurrence and the design of the system are similarly the legislative issues that must be led by the National Assembly. Developed countries do it all. So this must be solved in the end. And to a certain extent in parliament, I have to get the support of my fellow councilors and use my political power, and these aren't going to be easy, but that's a challenge rather than giving up in the first place, so I try to do something that I can I want to show you how I am.

▷ Ju-Jin / Anchor: Judge politicians are surprisingly relatively less than prosecutors. Now I understand why I decided to go to politics as a judge. Did anyone in the neighborhood have to do politics, or did you have a public interest lawyer before? I think you may be very sorry for those colleagues.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: I know that a lot of opinions are coming out. I am listening now. But I think there are a lot of things mixed up. The story about me, the whole situation, these things. But now I have no choice but to talk about it. I have a basic idea. Judges are like judges and lawmakers are like lawmakers. Wouldn't it be nice for a judge to write like a member of parliament or to speak like a judge? So I'm an incumbent judge, and as I said before, I became a political symbol. So, in the sense that I lost my virtue as a judge, I didn't demand anyone in the sense of respecting the incumbent. Likewise, I have been a public lawyer for a year, but now that I have to do this is to challenge the lawmakers. If the people now have a chance to become members of the National Assembly, from then on, we will do our day by day concentrating on what the members of parliament should do.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: When he decided to go to politics at first, he also joined the Democratic Party. Wouldn't it be better to have a proportional representative? From the beginning, I would go to the district and get the referees' vote directly if I had politics.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Judge: I didn't even think about it then. I'm going to say it again, but I think it's a challenge to challenge this. So I'm going to focus on that. I need to do what I need in the process. I can't think about it in advance.

▷ Ju Young-jin / Anchor: In the process, Park Ju-min's chief commissioner became a kind of mentor, to former judge Lee Tan-hui?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: Well, many seniors are giving various opinions.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: In the Democratic Party, the case of former Judge Lee Tan-hee has already been nominated. Representative Geum Tae-seop and Kim Nam-guk attorney in Gangseo Gap area in Seoul have many other issues. Also, how are the media reporting the main news? Attorney Kim Nam-guk also worked as a lawyer, and I know you know how to deal with this situation.

▶ J. Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: But it's not true that I can talk about the specific situation of the party or the direction of our party. What I can tell you is that in a big frame, I've been participating in politics for a month now. I am very interested in any political reform or parliamentary reform. I can tell you this. So, as I keep telling me that even the reform of the courts should be led by the National Assembly, the National Assembly also has low credibility on the other side. But what do you say to the National Assembly? Looking at it, all the problems are connected. We need to raise the confidence of the National Assembly. I am thinking that we can do the reform of the court that is already last in the OECD. So, specifically, for example, I have a position in favor of the summons of lawmakers. I also look into these parts of the National Assembly Law.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: On the controversy over the nominations in the party, Lee Tan-hee is not an issue for me to comment on. Lee Tan-hee, a symbol of former judge court reform and judicial reform, became a political figure anyway. So you said that you decided to take off your dress. Did former judge Lee Tan-hee lead the national judicial conference? Also, I was recruited like a former Judge Lee Soo-jin, and I checked if it existed on the judiciary blacklist. If that's the case, was it a lie or was it a little packed? There were reports like this.

▶ Tan-Hee Lee / Judge: I already told you. But now it's not just a special instrument, but the process of resistance for two years, it's very complicated, and I've sacrificed in a way that various people naturally see and see. Since I had no choice but to play that central role, I would think and accept that there could be various evaluations of those areas. And since I have the basic idea that this is no longer the part I'm going to be concerned with in the matter of the court, I will continue to approach the issue of court reform from that point of view of what is important from the standpoint of the people and of the trial party. I think. I think we will be able to talk more about what needs to be done a little bit later than now.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: Is it difficult for you to answer the issues related to former judge Lee Soo-jin? Former Judge Lee Tan-hee is well aware of the situation.

▶ Judge Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: There are some details that I have already revealed during the investigation, so I don't know if it is appropriate to say this again.
▷ Ju Young Jin / Anchor: Now I will change the court through politics, I will change the Korean judiciary. The judicial branch that former judge Lee Tan-hee saw was still a judiciary that does not fit the eyes of the people.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former judge: Right. And it's not just my own idea, but numerically I think it's revealed that the original country of OECD member country was not really high in judicial credibility. It was last but it was finally last. Furthermore, if we look at the way we cope with the last, we can actually feel a lot in that attitude. When the last result comes out, we do it by revealing it in front of the people and looking deeply into the reason and suggesting a solution, but by hiding the last number. I think that's why many of these cultural mistakes, which were closed in the past and were caused by fellow consciousness, are not improving.

▷ Ju Young Jin / Anchor: For example, the prosecution reform. The current administration, called the coordination of prosecutors' rights and the establishment of an airspace, did this last year. Then, judicial reform will have a lot of problems, but former judge Lee Tan-hee must do this. What is it?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: I emphasize the impeachment of judges. But that impeachment drives out the wrong judges in the past. Our civil society needs a standard of work ethics. It is necessary for our future. The case called the Judicial Entrepreneur is a very big case and the Chief Justice has been arrested, but so far no public confirmation has been made.

▷ Ju Young-jin / Anchor: And the judges involved continue to plead not guilty now.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: Right. And now it's time to go back to trial and try again, and the people have to go to the judges. So these situations are actually very angry for the people. So, in order to restore judicial trust for our future, through the impeachment of judges, the standard of ethical ethics is clearly clarified, and the wrong people's responsibility is asked according to the ethical standards, but how should we establish the future judge image? I need discussion.

▷ Ju Young Jin / Anchor: Please answer this shortly. If politicians actually impeach the judiciary, aren't there any regulations? There is no case yet. Will politics affect justice?

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Former judge: The decision is finally made by the Constitutional Court. So I tell you that you don't have to worry too much because the constitutional court decision will establish specific standards. Furthermore, in fact, one of the roles I have to play is to make sure that the right impeachment is imposed against judges who have really violated the work ethic so that judge impeachment is not based on specific judgments.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: I don't know how our viewers will judge the character called Lee Tan-hee, but since you're in this position, let me tell you how to start a full-fledged activity as a politician.

▶ J. Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: I have already made a promise to the people as I declared politics. I want to do politics that concentrates on tasks. I would also like to have a politics that recognizes the hearts of the people. I think that I will be involved in political participation for a certain period of time, and eventually I will be evaluated by the public as I finish some political participation. It was a rewarding political participation for me if I could be judged that this person was really focused on the task, the public task that was needed at that time, and furthermore, if he could be judged that he was not really. I think I can feel it. Thank you for your attention.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: Lee Tan-hee, Judge Lee, is good at it. I'm sorry to hear from your fellow lawyers and members of the Public Human Rights Law Foundation.

▶ J. Lee Tan-hee / Former Judge: I'm working hard to find other ways to help.

▷ Joo Young-jin / Anchor: Viewers and voters will remember the words spoken by former judge Lee Tan-hee. I hope you will show good things in future political elections. I heard you well.

▶ Lee Tan-hee / Judge: Thank you.


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