- If I look at my entire climate impact, the car is my biggest boon. I live well, I consume well, I eat well so I do what I can for the climate. But I can't do much about the car, says Emma Hansen.

Rainwater and compost

Emma Hansen lives with her three children in a so-called earth ship in Deje. They have built the house themselves and it is basically completely climate neutral. The electricity comes from solar cells, the heat from the wood and the cooker is powered by gas.

The water that is consumed is collected rainwater, the toilet is a compost toilet and so they grow a lot of the food on their own. But that was it with the car.

- Obviously nobody has forced me to live here. But it is true that the type of house I live in is a little outside the detail plan. I would most likely not get a building permit in a central city. So, should I choose to live in the city, I would make a greater impact on the climate with my accommodation. It's in the balance, what's the worst? The car or the accommodation?

Five miles to the job

Emma Hansen has a five mile easy way to work in Karlstad. This means that she drives about 50 km a week and spends around SEK 2,000 a month on gasoline. And she, like many others, feels that she is being punished for choosing to live in the countryside.

- I do not think that we who live in rural areas should be penalized for having a long way to work, but we should have a tax deduction that gives us cheaper gasoline, she says.

But why should city residents pay more for gasoline?

- They have the opportunity to go collectively and they can cycle. I can't bike five miles to work and there is no bus that I can take either.

What would a differentiated fuel price mean, do you think?

- It might attract more people to dare to live in the country. I think many see commuting as a problem. It is not so fun to spend a lot of time in the car, especially when it is so expensive. Then I know that many people want to live in the country but who do not think they can afford it. And society does not work if everyone is to live in the cities. We must have a functioning countryside, says Emma Hansen.

During the fall, we at SVT reflect on a number of issues where opinions are sharply disassembled and try to investigate what happens when people actually meet and talk - eye to eye. The question of what fuel should cost is one of them.

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