In an exclusive interview with Europe 1 granted since the UN summit in New York, the head of state "assumes to speak calmly of immigration" before a debate in the National Assembly on Monday.

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Emmanuel Macron has decided to make the migration issue one of the central themes of this political season. And assumes to have relaunched many debates on this flammable issue, before a debate in the National Assembly on Monday. In an exclusive interview given to Europe 1, the Head of State "understands very well" the emotion aroused by these debates and says "do it in an extremely peaceful environment".

From New York, where the United Nations summit was held, Emmanuel Macron believes on our radio that "it would be a mistake to say that the migration issue is a taboo issue." We must not make people believe that would be overwhelmed by this phenomenon today or that France is a country that has never been a country formed in part by immigration, it is false, "he defends.

For Macron, you have to "get out of certain postures"

Since his statements to parliamentarians of the majority, which he invited to look at the subject of immigration "in the face", the President of the Republic is aware of having provoked "complicated debate" in which "the answer is not unequivocal ".

And, in line with his positions taken since the presidential campaign, the head of state advocates again an "at the same time" in immigration: "What is important is to be human and effective and get out of certain postures in which we are locked up, "he criticizes the microphone of our special envoy. "Today, failing to be in 'at the same time', we are often in the ni-ni: we are neither human nor efficient, to give ourselves a good conscience or to do the hardships. to speak calmly of immigration, "he concludes, denouncing both sides of the" simplistic debates "on the subject.

The desire to "renew more effectively"

To detail his "at the same time", the head of state advocates several changes in migration policy: "To accommodate everyone worthily, we must not be a country too attractive," he said. "We must as soon as possible give asylum to those who need our protection with the will" to integrate much more effectively those who are entitled to asylum, with French lessons and a job policy stronger."

But the head of state decided to increase the firmness of the authorities on the subject: "We must analyze if there are no excesses that exist, and I believe that they exist in certain categories", advance -t it. "Then, people who do not have to remain in the territory should be driven much more effectively because they entered it illegally and sometimes applied for asylum and were not entitled to it. "