“I applaud those who play for 30 thousand rubles”: Ovchinnikov - about the words of Rodnina, envy of Akinfeev, coaches and methods

“For some reason, we always think that we are worse than the rest”

- Almost two years have passed since you left CSKA and practically disappeared from the media space.

What are you doing now?

— Yes, I stepped back a bit.

I see no reason to often participate in programs and give interviews in large numbers.

I don't know if this is good or bad.

For myself, I decided to selectively do such things.

I hold a position in the RFU in the department for the education of coaches, I am a member of a number of committees.

Work is more office, but with people.

- You like?

- My activity is directly related to football, and I have not left it.

We are engaged in direct training of trainers for various licenses and instructors who will train specialists in the future.

We spend a lot of time on the field, because there are a large number of practical exercises, including with teams.

There are programs related to children's football.

But still, this is a slightly different work aimed at education.

- So you are more engaged in methodology?

- She too.

Everything related to learning.

- Previously, specialists went to improve their qualifications in Europe.

Many said that our school lags behind the European one.

Is it true?

For some reason, we always think that we are worse than the rest.

We try to belittle our dignity and eat ourselves with this.

But I think it's a stereotype.

The same Sandro Schwartz and Domenico Tedesco did not achieve great success, heading Dynamo and Spartak, respectively.

In the West, on the contrary, surprisingly, they consider our coaching school to be strong enough.

Therefore, I would not say so categorically that we are inferior to the Europeans in some way.

Everything has long been invented.

If the coach is smart, he will use all existing modern methods.

And it is not at all necessary to go abroad to gain knowledge.

Because everything is in the public domain.

We are currently working on programs provided by UEFA.

They are taught in all European countries.

— Previously, compatriots did not go on internships so often?

- Not.

Rather, it was private.

And then they went to individual specialists who are of interest at the moment.

It is clear that this is Josep Guardiola, Jurgen Klopp, the Italians.

Therefore, everything remains the same here.

Another thing is that the learning process itself has undergone major changes.

We have moved away from the lecture format and focus more on practical exercises.

Because you can say whatever you want.

But, without trying the theory on the field, it is very difficult for listeners to absorb it.

Therefore, we went the way of UEFA.

We created a program based on the convention on coaching education, which works on various kinds of licenses: from the smallest ones, for youth football, to professional ones - the UEFA Pro category.

We hope that in five years the first successes will be visible.

Accordingly, if a specialist improves his skills and becomes in demand, then his wards will also show a better game.

The most important thing is the development of the players in general.

After all, elite sport is the tip of the iceberg.

But we do not see the entire vertical where the player is born.

An increase in the number of competent mentors in youth football will also lead to an increase in well-trained children, technically and tactically, who will fill the teams of the Second, First League and RPL.

- Previously, they constantly said that we had problems in youth football.

The situation has changed?

You know, I'm already 52 years old.

And all this time I hear about them.

Great specialists, leaders and coaches come with this motto.

But from what you say a thousand times about the problem, it will not be solved.

It is necessary not to speak, but to do.

Take constructive steps to change the existing situation.

We have a shortage of competitions, equipment, qualified mentors, fields where children could practice.

And the RFU is trying to deal with all this.

Finally, with the arrival of Alexander Dyukov and Maxim Mitrofanov, the situation began to change.

The UFL appeared - these are very well organized competitions, fully sponsored by the RFU, which is also important.

From the point of view of the sports component, they are interesting, since equal and fairly strong opponents play there.

In such an environment, the child develops as an athlete.

Many women's football programs are now being implemented.

I won't be wrong if I say that UEFA, oddly enough, is helping us today.

Contacts related to educational activities have not yet ceased.

And individual statements by our deputies, who, in my opinion, are simply incompetent in this matter, only hinder the process.

I repeat, we try not to talk about problems, but to solve them.

- In recent years, they have cited Denmark as an example, where children under a certain age play five on five and not for the result.

There is nothing new in this system.

In the USSR it was similar, but many have forgotten about it.

The Danes have been going to her for ten years.

They constantly tried to fire the person who

came up with and fought for his idea, believed in it.

But let's start with the fact that the country started from scratch.

And any system, even a bad one, is better than organized chaos.

So she gave up.

In addition, the Danes have changed their philosophy.

Like all Scandinavians, they used to focus on classic English football.

But instead, they began to try to be like Manchester City and Bayern from the time of Guardiola, Barcelona with their total control of the ball.

In addition, they have excellent children's academies that bring up technically equipped children and enrich the teams with their players, united by a common philosophy and idea.

Built vertical.

The Danes chose this path, they did well, but they walked for a long time, so it is difficult to call the system revolutionary.

Nevertheless, those things from the program that you voiced have always existed with us.

I simply would not equate Denmark and Russia, it could also be compared with Russia and Iceland, where there are 300 thousand fields for 300 thousand people.

And we don’t have very many of them for 150 million, so children play on quarters, halves, in yards on asphalt.

- In your opinion, is it precisely the stereotypes and distrust of your own mentors that determine the excessive trust in foreigners by Russian clubs?

- Before the winter break in the RPL, there were not so many of them, only three - Slavisa Jokanovic, Guillermo Abascal and Marcel Lichka.

— At the moment, it is more connected with the geopolitical situation.

Otherwise there would be more.

But, again, not all foreigners succeed.

Some of them are interesting.

And, of course, you need to pay attention to them.

Someone is not.

- Who should be followed?

- Lichka is doing great in Orenburg.

I know him well.

He came to share his experience with domestic colleagues.

His approach, philosophy and knowledge left a great impression.

These are the coaches we need.

At the same time, Marcel says that he studied with Russian specialists.

Therefore, it does not matter where you get knowledge, it is important how you develop further.

And if you want this, then you will definitely progress.

• Ovchinnikov about his work in the RFU and about foreign coaches

“My candidate for the post of head coach of Lokomotiv is Vadim Evseev”

- At the same time, several foreign specialists passed through Lokomotiv, who destroyed what had been created for many years.

- I would not speak so loudly - they destroyed it.

The club is alive and well.

He works.

There is a team.

- True, he can spend the next season in the FNL.

Any team goes through certain stages of development.

To speak or condemn, you have to be inside and understand the situation in the club.

Every leader has his own philosophy.

We do not know what she is like in Lokomotiv.

With German specialists, the idea was not bad, it was working.

They wanted to rely on the youth, to develop it and continue to live at the expense of it.

Sell, saturate other teams - RPL or other leagues.

They wanted to see their pupils in the first team.

But something went wrong.

It happens.

Yes, they are gone, but in any case, they should be thanked.

The Germans left behind not only bad things, but they certainly brought good things in terms of organization and approach to work.

You should always take the best, and not focus on the result.

It's not always informative.

It will take several years to understand the whole situation with Lokomotiv.

- In this case, the impression was that they came to Russia solely for money.

- You recently convinced me that foreign specialists are better than Russian ones, and now you are trying to dissuade me

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We have a strong coaching staff, but there are problems in organizing the football economy.

And, unfortunately, not only with us.

In many countries, federations, there is a problem of nepotism when they appoint pleasing mentors or acquaintances.

And it seems to me that, first of all, the leader must understand whether he needs this person or not.

Does he understand the club's development philosophy?

Will he be able to work here and now, or is he a specialist for the future, who needs to be given time.

Having potential, but currently not able to give a result.

And in this case, we must be prepared to wait, and we do not know how to do this.

After all, everyone is repelled by a place in the standings and a budget.

In addition, leaders are unscrupulous.

It seems to me that here we are inferior to Europe.

If we make the work of management more transparent, then success will be higher.

- So you think the resignation of Josef Zinbauer hasty?

— I'm not ready to evaluate it.

This should be done by RZD.

I think both the first and the second decisions were not fully balanced and very controversial.

But, again, I speak as an outsider.

I want the club, where I spent most of my career and won many different titles, to please the fans.

And they dream of victories and first places.

It does not matter who will be in the management of Lokomotiv.

Most importantly, fans should get what they want.

Was Galaktionov's appointment also hasty?

- Yes.

- Why?

- And why not Ivanov, but Galaktionov?

- Mikhail is a talented mentor who has shown himself well in Pari NN.

“We have a lot of them, oddly enough.

And Galaktionov also heads the youth team of Russia.

Are there many combinations?

We kind of went away from this once, but now we are coming to the same thing.

I think you shouldn't step on the same rake all the time.

Regardless of the situation.

In addition, it seems to me that Mikhail is still quite a young specialist.

Without much experience.

If you take it for the future, perhaps this is the right decision.

But I don’t know if the management and the fans are ready to wait.

There is also an ethical point.

He was the mentor of Pari NN.

Probably, coaches in such a situation should not leave the team, just as the captain does not leave his ship until the last.

Not everyone in the community took it right. 

- That is, for the result here and now, another, anti-crisis specialist is required?

- I have my own candidate, like any fan.

I am a former Lokomotiv player and I also think who could work at the club.

- Name it.

— Vadim Evseev.

This is a young and promising coach, but with great experience and achievements.

He is a railroad worker who spent many years on the team.

Again, I'm not campaigning.

Management knows better who to appoint.

Let's cheer for Galaktionov.

I hope he succeeds.

I would not say that the red-greens today require an anti-crisis specialist.

You just need a good mentor.

- We thought you would remember Yuri Semin.

- I have my own vision of the situation regarding the possible invitation of Yuri Pavlovich.

In my opinion, this is no longer relevant.

I think Semin himself understands this.

We are used to seeing him at the head of Lokomotiv.

But today he would be more useful as a coordinator who would help to make some transition from the traditions of the past to the future.

He could help at the headquarters, become a link between the management and the team, transfer some knowledge and tricks.

But this is purely my opinion.

It may not be correct.

Does Semin like to share his experience or does he keep his secrets to himself?

- When we worked with him at Dynamo Kiev, he shared with me both his life and coaching experience.

• Ovchinnikov on personnel changes at Lokomotiv

“Football is theater.

And you play a part."

- At the moment, you are the head of the Our Guys Medialeague team, but this is more of a hobby.

After leaving CSKA, did you have a desire to return to coaching?

- No, this is also a job that needs to be done well, since we represent the RFU.

Would I like to coach?

When you do what you love, of course, there is a desire to continue.

But when you understand what you will face, you think: “Bang your head against the wall for the hundredth time?

Why do I need this?

As a result, these two people constantly live inside me: one wants to train, and the second, a pragmatist, dissuades him.

In order for me to agree to lead someone, I must be interested, I must be convinced of this.

I can afford to choose.

And this is much better than going with the flow, because then you can just drown.

- That is, for you, what kind of management will be in the club?

- No matter how trite it may seem, relationships inside are important.

If they are human, correct, decent and you are comfortable, then this will be enough.

- Were there any invitations after CSKA?

I'd be lying if I said it didn't.

But I would also be lying if I said that there were a lot of them.

There were interesting options.

Somewhere I didn’t want to, somewhere it didn’t grow together, somewhere they didn’t let me go.

Therefore, for now I am only the coach of Our Guys

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- Is the level of the club important?

- No.

But today I doubt that Ovchinnikov is needed in the Second League at all.

And I don’t really need it, because I won’t be able to give what a higher-level team is ready to teach.

They just don't need all my knowledge.

This is exactly the situation I was talking about earlier.

Managers must understand why they need a specialist.

The worst team doesn't always need the best coach to grow.

- In the Second and First Leagues, this understanding is often not there?

- Differently.

You asked me about the training of coaches, but no one canceled the education of leaders.

We have a big gap in this.

Although they are not scolded, let's call a spade a spade.

- It turns out that while we are solving only one problem?

- No.

Let me lift the veil: we are also working with functionaries.

We started it.

We explain a lot.

Unfortunately, teams are often managed by non-sports or football managers.

It's not always bad.

In the end, in today's market relations, it is even important when people with money come to get away from budget financing.

There are private clubs: Krasnodar, Veles, Akron, Rodina.

Their directors lack sports knowledge, some things are learned in the process.

And this affects both the team and the people.

- And who is the standard for you as a leader?

- Of course, I will call Dyukov.

In fact, people have little understanding of what he does for our football and in what volumes.

And few people appreciate it.

I really like his moral side.

He doesn't stick out anything.

At the same time, it works a lot.

I believe that people should be spoken well of while they are still alive.

Therefore, Dyukov for the RFU is salvation when we talk about the federation.

And if we take the leaders of the clubs, then I will single out Galitsky.

Sergei Nikolaevich can make controversial decisions, but they are balanced.

He is a very smart person, knows football deeply and knows how to manage.

Krasnodar is an example of building a club.

- What do you attribute the bulls' problems to this season?

- Their composition has become very young, highly qualified foreigners have left.

It takes time to build something worthwhile.

- At the same time, there is an opinion that Galitsky has a huge impact on the team itself, up to the choice of tactics.

How to treat it?

- I think you're exaggerating a little.

He doesn't teach anyone how to play.

He just wants his team to show attacking, combinational football with total ball control.

Under this case, a coach is selected.

The specialist accepts the offer, and hence the rules.

Alas, in our country people often say “yes”, being unable to put on the kind of football that Galitsky wants.

And then they get offended when they are criticized.

Sergei Nikolaevich has the right to his philosophy.

It's his money, his brainchild.

He is very deeply immersed in sports, knows a lot of nuances.

And the fact that he gets into the work of the coaching staff is more talk.

— Mentors are often divided into tacticians and motivators.

What category do you belong to?

“When I started, I didn’t have much knowledge.

Therefore, he acted more as a motivator.

This is sometimes enough.

However, if you want to develop and achieve heights, you must go through all stages of training.

I guess now I'm somewhere in between these two extremes.

But I think any coach would say that.

Due to motivation, it is difficult to leave all the time.

Especially in top clubs where the players want to understand what they are playing.

They have their own view on many tactical moments.

And you must not only explain, but also convince of the correctness of the chosen model.

After all, a football player is actually an egoist.

He plays for the team, but first of all he thinks about himself.

How it looks, develops and how much it will cost later.

- The most difficult ward of those with whom you had to communicate?

Thank God there weren't any.

Working with Slutsky, I was convinced that there are no unsolvable problems.

He easily got out of any conflict situation.

And this does not even speak about his character, but about his knowledge of psychology.

Leonid Viktorovich is a great coach.

I endured a lot for myself, being in his headquarters.

“You seem to have changed a lot yourself lately.

- I have not changed my character since childhood.

It's just that everyone saw me only on the field.

In fact, I am a very calm person and it is quite difficult, almost impossible, to unbalance me.

Football is theater.

And you play a part.

You behave the way the fans expect from you.

And if you choose some image, you correspond to it for some time.

The fans liked my "explosions" so I gave them to them.

But it was always discordant with my inner self.

It's very difficult.

• Ovchinnikov on the role of Alexander Dyukov in the RFU and the balanced decisions of Sergei Galitsky

“Because of modern techniques, goalkeepers become equally bad”

- At one time, Ilya Pomazun admitted that in CSKA you were like a father to him.

But he also talked about serious mental tests: you called him fat, demanded that he lose weight.

Of course, I always tell the truth.

And how did he react?

“That didn't bother me much.

The task was to make him a good goalkeeper.

I think I got through it.

I usually outline the perspective and how to achieve the result.

And then I ask if the player agrees to go together towards this goal.

If yes, then sorry, let's do it.

- Who got the most from you?

- I'll anoint.

The fact that I was like a father to him is, of course, very big words.

He has wonderful parents.

Just for any football player, the coach becomes a close person, because you spend more time with him than at home.

- Did Igor Akinfeev have to make comments?

- We have known each other for a long time.

We have friendly relations and a common understanding of life values.

A goalkeeper of this level is more likely to need psychological support.

It is enough to share your experience, and this will solve a particular problem.

Maybe just talk.

I do not see the point in formidable criticisms.

Moreover, Pomazun also never scolded for conceded goals.

A goal is a fait accompli.

Nothing can be changed.

And it's my fault, because I prepared him for the match.

Accordingly, claims must be made first of all to yourself and next time to prevent such a situation.

- You were so kind to Pomazun, because you saw such great potential in him?

— Yes, as in Vladislav Torop.

In my opinion, in the future they will become great goalkeepers.

- There are many discussions about who is the best goalkeeper in Russia - Igor Akinfeev or Matvey Safonov.

What is your point of view?

I like Safonov very much.

I saw his formation when he was still very young in Krasnodar.

Even then he made an impression.

He has excellent anthropometry, he is jumpy, he understands the game.

Shows very good football from time to time.

But today it is inferior in skill and class.

I think it is generally impossible to surpass Igor, only to get closer.

Matvey has a long career ahead of him and has time to improve.

However, at the moment there is Akinfeev and other good goalkeepers.

— Кого бы ещё выделили из молодых голкиперов?

— Их не так много. Мне нравятся Богдан Овсянников и Иван Ломаев. В «Торпедо» есть Андрей Бондарь, но он по неизвестным мне причинам мало выходит на поле. Тороп — в ЦСКА. На мой взгляд, он уже мог бы выступать в любой команде РПЛ. Это голкипер новой формации, которая у нас редко встречается.

К сожалению, сегодня российская вратарская школа больше приближается к западной. Используются методики, которые не работают. Голкиперы становятся одинаково плохими. Советский Союз всегда отличался именно стражами ворот. Я говорю даже не о качестве, а об оригинальности, стиле. Сейчас же мы приходим к худшим европейским образцам.

Причём я знаю, что эти программы обучения не нравятся и западным специалистам, поскольку они очень спорные. Раньше мы могли назвать 20—30 вратарей высокого уровня, в каждой лиге их было несколько. Сейчас, чтобы перечислить действительно хороших голкиперов, нам хватит пальцев двух рук.

— А в чём принципиальное отличие новой методики?

— Акцент делается на блоковой системе, сокращении дистанции в надежде, что мяч попадёт в тебя. Копирование гандбола. Но только если этого не произойдёт, то будет гол.

У вратаря должны хорошо работать ноги, он обязан уметь прыгать, предугадывать направление развития атак, ударов. Надо и руки задействовать. Посмотрите, сколько пропускают после добивания. Это означает, что хромает техника. Постоянно идёт отскок. На выходах также мало кто играет — и то только кулаками. Мяч всё время попадает к сопернику. Соответственно, это лишняя атака на твои ворота, дополнительные удары и голы.

И это мы говорим про отдельно взятую встречу. А если посмотреть в долгосрочной перспективе? Ведь вратарь выступает в среднем десять лет. Поэтому, на мой взгляд, сейчас методики не развивают их. Они скорее делают из вратарей каких-то роботов, мало способных повлиять на ситуацию на поле.

— А как вы относитесь к тенденции, что голкипер должен начинать атаку?

— Раньше вратари могли брать мяч руками в определённых ситуациях. Играть ногами не было необходимости. Но развитие атаки от ворот ценилось всегда. Не просто выбить вперёд, а оставить мяч у своей команды.  

Многие тренеры следуют той философии, что вратарь — это лишний полевой, через которого можно начинать атаку или менять её направление, сохранять мяч, контролировать ситуацию на поле. Поэтому требования к игре ногами возросли. Точнее, данный элемент добавился к приёму, прыжкам, перемещениям, координации. Таким образом, они должны быть больше задействованы в общих упражнениях с остальными футболистами. И за рубежом к амплуа на тренировках не очень привязываются. Голкипер может исполнять функции полевого, чтобы было понимание происходящего. Ведь хороший страж ворот всегда смотрит на себя глазами соперника.

— Что вы имеете в виду?

— Это трудно понять, я Помазуну это тоже говорил, но он только через десять лет мне позвонил и сказал: «Получилось!» Чтобы правильно действовать во время матча, важно осознавать, как поступит противник. Для этого нужно видеть себя в момент удара или передачи глазами оппонента. Тогда ты примешь грамотное, выверенное решение. Но это высший пилотаж. К такому видению поля надо долго идти. И именно этим вещам нужно учить: не только ловить мяч и играть ногами, но также думать и подсказывать партнёрам. Тогда будет очень мало голов в твои ворота.

• Овчинников о современных методиках обучения вратарей

«Мне кажется, Дзюбе хочется остаться на родине»

— Вы в прошлом году сказали, что Акинфеев — босс российского футбола?

— Я так не мог сказать, поскольку на самом деле плохо пониманию значимость этих слов. И что даёт данный титул?

— Нам тоже интересно.

— Скорее всего, мы говорили о фигуре в российском футболе. Кто сегодня его больше всего олицетворяет.

— Вам не кажется, что сейчас это скорее Дзюба?

— Игорь с точки зрения человеческих качеств, жизненной позиции, отношения к стране, работе, семье, что немаловажно, заслуживает большого уважения. За ним никогда не было каких-то историй. Он пронёс это через всю свою карьеру. И продолжает нести. И я думаю, он на сегодняшний день тот маяк, на который должны ориентироваться молодые спортсмены в плане построения карьеры.

— Как вы оцениваете решение Дзюбы расторгнуть контракт с «Аданой»?

— Знаю Артёма. Он, конечно, очень импульсивный. Не любит уступать, сидеть в запасе. Его настроение зависит от того, выходит он на поле или нет. Это черта характера. Возможно, она и позволила ему добиться высот. Мы не знаем, почему он соглашался перейти в турецкий клуб. Было ли это ему действительно нужно.

Думаю, ситуация банальна: он не попадал в состав и решил поменять коллектив. Если он чувствует в себе силы, хочет выступать, а ему не дают, соответственно, надо искать другую команду. Зная Артёма, мне кажется, что в нынешних условиях ему хочется быть на родине. Как бы это громко ни звучало, он со своим народом и страной.

— Вы не понаслышке знаете, с какими сложностями может быть сопряжено выступление в зарубежной лиге. С какими проблемами вы столкнулись во время пребывания в Португалии?

— Я тогда был счастлив в «Локомотиве» и сильно уезжать не хотел. Меня окружали партнёры, с которыми до сих пор остаёмся в дружеских отношениях. Красно-зелёные развивались семимильными шагами. С интересом наблюдали, во что это выльется. В итоге команда стала флагманом российского футбола и достигла больших высот.

Но в 1990-е у наших клубов была сложная финансовая ситуация. Требовались деньги. Поступило предложение, и мне пришлось уехать. Честно говоря, до сих пор не знаю, хорошо ли, что у меня есть этот европейский опыт. Сейчас бы я долго думал.

— Потому что у европейцев совсем другой менталитет?

— И это тоже. Мы, русские, ко всему можем привыкнуть, но к берёзкам тянет (Смеётся.). Если серьёзно, на самом деле я просто считаю, что хорошие футболисты должны оставаться на родине.

— И поднимать уровень национального чемпионата?

— Да. Быть примером для молодёжи. Чтобы рядом росли ребята, которые тянулись за лучшими. У нас все говорят: «Вот, ехал бы Игорь за границу». А зачем? Какой смысл? Он выступал в Лиге чемпионов, защищал цвета сборной. Он — вратарь номер один.

— Может быть, не было достойного предложения?

— На самом деле я знаю, куда его звали, но не скажу (Смеётся.). Его хотел очень большой клуб. И я ему завидую. Он принял решение, которое я в своё время не смог. Он молодец, оказался жёстче меня. Убеждённее. Причём деньги здесь вообще не играют никакой роли, ни для одного спортсмена. Не важно, за какую сумму ты выходишь на поле: за рубль или за миллион. Ты просто любишь своё дело. А если ещё и заплатят, то отлично.

Многие говорят, что футболисты получают большие деньги. Но это больше миф, созданный журналистами. Столько зарабатывают человек десять, и по доходам мы сильно уступаем даже средним европейским странам. Поэтому я аплодирую ребятам, которые во Второй и Первой лигах играют за 50 тыс. и даже за 30 тыс. рублей, хотя у них есть семьи. Но они продолжают выступать. И об этом тоже надо говорить.

Да, есть некорректное поведение со стороны самих игроков. И таким образом они злят общество. Но это больше говорит о культуре и ответственности тренеров, руководителей клубов. Они должны объяснять спортсменам правила поведения, если этому не научили в семье. Футболисты должны чётко понимать, что несут социальную ответственность. Но иногда есть не очень красивые примеры.

— А как можно содержать семью на 30—50 тыс. рублей?

— Я не знаю. Многие уходят. Выбирают Медиалигу, работают в фирмах. Я в 1990-е, выступая за сборную, занимался извозом. Зарабатывал $50. Как жить на эти деньги? Да никак. Поэтому мы должны в целом развивать футбол. Может быть, уйти от количества и перейти к качеству клубов. Это тоже выход. Чтобы была наполняемость игроками, хорошее финансирование.

Болельщики говорят: «Вот, вы столько получаете». Но вы же хотите это зрелище! Попробуйте, скажите, что завтра не будет футбола, как предложила Ирина Роднина. Спортсменка так высказалась о коллегах — это вообще нонсенс, как минимум неуважительно. Но давайте отменим футбол, и я посмотрю на реакцию людей на улицах.

— Сейчас, наверное, это особенно сложно.

— It was always difficult.

This is the number one game in the world.

And we didn't invent it.

So in all countries.

It relieves social tension, gives people the opportunity to relax.

It doesn't matter if your team is doing well or not.

Masters there or lumberjacks.

A person comes and gets emotions.

Yes, not always positive.

But no one says that they should be like that.

Therefore, I think football needs to be developed in our country, like any other sport.

• Ovchinnikov about Artyom Dziub and Igor Akinfeev