Pablo Iglesias attends an interview at the door of the headquarters of his ministry, in one of the main streets of Madrid.

"Lower the light, lower the light!" A citizen who passes by on the street snaps at him.

"That man is right," concedes the second vice president.

However, the Government, which includes United We Can, has not made any decision on the substantial rise in electricity in recent days.

Iglesias has been in the government for one year and seven as the leader of Podemos, an event that he celebrates by asking for the pardon of the leaders of 1-O for the "interest of the State", comparing Puigdemont with the republican exiles for the dictatorship, and charging against the rich , powerful and entrepreneurs: "They are worse than I imagined."

Iglesias takes advantage of the media speaker of an interview in Sunday's prime time to mark distances with the PSOE, trying to present a second vice president as an 'outsider' of his Government.

Unload in the socialist sector those most controversial measures that are not complied with - stop the rise in electricity;

no increase in the minimum wage ...- and justifies the role of his party in "the correlation of forces", in having only 35 deputies.

Set your own profile and recover the most anti-system spirit.

Iglesias, who has been governing with the PSOE for a year, has repeated on more than one occasion that in politics "you must always distrust", "you should never trust anyone", even joking that he did not rule out that some ministers were like the aliens from the mythical series V - humans who are actually reptiles.

The vice president has been especially tough against the rich and businessmen, as he defines it, "the economic and media powers."

He confesses that he has met "with less rich and powerful than could be expected given my responsibilities. They are worse than I imagined. No rich and powerful is willing to accept a decision that affects their wealth and power. It is the bloody truth. "was his volley.

Iglesias says he is pressured "every day."

He points to the "media arms of the great powers of this country" and has come to accuse the ministers of the PSOE sector of the Government of speaking through the mouths of businessmen and employers.

"It may happen that within the government you argue with another minister who does not argue based on pressure, but endorses the arguments of the employers."

Puigdemont, an exile like the Republicans

The vice president has been firmly in favor of a general pardon for pro-independence political leaders, for a matter of general interest.

"A government has to watch over the interest of the State, and it is required that the imprisoned independence leaders can be free and represent the citizens who have voted for them."

Iglesias, who has said he does not share Puigdemont's postulates, has empathized with him, fleeing the Spanish Justice, when comparing him with the republican exiles during the dictatorship.

"I compare him, I think so. And that does not mean that he shared what he did or the forms, but what he did was motivated by his convictions. What he did seems to me a mistake, but what he did about Puigdemont is not morally reprehensible as he did. that Juan Carlos I did ", has been his reflection.

He does consider the emeritus a fugitive.

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