Susanna Griso: "I would invite Pedro Sánchez to dinner to tell me all his changes of position, which for some are lies and for his environment, a test of maturity"

One of the most anticipated appointments at the Chicote Museum arrived. As every year, the emblematic Madrid cocktail bar is decked out to deliver this Wednesday, September 27, its recognitions to the trajectory of different professionals of art, culture, communication or gastronomy. In this ninth edition, the Chicote Museum Awards are aimed at seven professionals who stand out for their career. In addition to Alejandro Amenábar, Cruz Roja, Carmen Machi, Boris Izaguirre, José Antonio Sánchez and Josep Pedrerol, the jury has recognized the journalist Susanna Griso (Barcelona, 1969) with the award for Best Communicator.

We managed to talk to her on the phone about the award and the news after leaving the set of Espejo Público, the program she presents on Antena 3. The award has come as a surprise and has made him very excited. "The first bar I went to when I arrived in Madrid 25 years ago was Museo Chicote. Everyone had recommended it to me and I loved it. I'm not one to go out for drinks, but I really like cocktails and also Chicote Museum; it's special because the atmosphere takes you back to the 50s of Ava Gardner, Luis Buñuel..."

The award, which, he emphasizes, is also for his entire team, recognizes his professional career, which in the last 18 years has been linked to one of the most watched morning shows.

After these 18 years at the stop of 'Espejo Púbico', have you ever considered doing another type of program, or does the current situation hook? The present engages a lot and Mirror... more. Right now it's my life's project. I enjoy it a lot, to the point that there are days that the four and a half hours that the program lasts fly by. And this season, in addition, let's say that it is the most mature in terms of years, because the format comes of age, it is a little more daring and irreverent, and that is what makes the format last. We are constantly reinventing ourselves.Is it less pressure for you that Ana Rosa's program has passed to the afternoons? Well, the pressure is still there, because in the end we always compete and I have a lot of esteem for all my competitors. But well, I always think it is positive that the stripes move because you face different formats, which is also an incentive for me.Is this one of the most intense or interesting moments journalistically speaking of your entire career or have you had other more demanding stages? I would say that it is one of the most, but we have been convulsed for many years, especially from the political point of view. I think the economy is going to have a very prominent place in the information in the coming months, because now we have looked a lot at the amnesty debate, at the referendum as a demand of the independentists, but complicated months are coming, with the withdrawal of aid and in which domestic economies are going to suffer. And they are issues that we are going to address in a quite innovative way.Are you worried about criticism in the networks when you interview especially a politician or someone more controversial? No, because I shield myself a lot. If I have learned anything after so many years of live programming and that exhibition is that, in the end, storms are storms in glasses of water and have no greater route or continuity or impact. And it has made me harder, stronger; in the past I was a little more worried about what they will say, but I remember when I went to the United States in the late 80s and I was not sure whether to study Psychology or dedicate myself to information, I interviewed the director of a morning program of maximum audience of that time on Colorado television and he told me: "This is not suitable for sensitive people, you have to have very hard skin to withstand this level." And he told me that when there were no social networks, and I thought: "I'm useless" and I told myself that I would dedicate myself to writing, but never to doing anything on the radio or television ... Would you interview Josu Ternera and call him a 'fanatical militant' as Jordi Évole has done? Of course, everyone has to be interviewed. I do not know what I would call him, but what I do know is that he was a leader of ETA Politico Militar and that responsibility cannot be lowered. I can't comment on anything else, because I haven't seen the documentary [Don't call me Ternera] yet, although I want to see it.What has been the most bitter coffee in your 'Coffee with Susanna' section? I remember one with Esperanza Aguirre that was very complicated at the time, because it coincided with the changes in the direction of Caja Madrid. Mariano Rajoy was betting on Rodrigo Rato and she on Ignacio González, and it was a bitter coffee because after ten minutes of interview she wanted to leave. The one of turns that history has given later!And the sweetest? Usually in interviews with former party leaderscialista. They are quite grateful. I would say that Felipe González, Alfonso Guerra, Juan Carlos Rodríguez Ibarra... I do not know if they are very sweet, but they have given many headlines.Is the oven for buns in Spanish politics? We do not know exactly what the oven is for, but if you ask me to make a bet, knowing that I can be wrong, like almost everyone with the pools we made in the face of the general elections, I think we are going to an investiture of Sánchez at the end of October or November. It may happen that, suddenly, he does not have his support as tied as we are led to believe and elections have to be repeated, but his environment tells me that he is tied to 99.9%. Who do you think is the parsley of all sauces right now in Spain? Man, in recent months, the set of Pablo Motos has spent practically the best of politics. And the interviews that have been seen in El Hormiguero have been very decisive, with repercussions also in the political campaign. In other words, right now, Pablo Motos is quite parsley. Is there bread for so much chorizo? Well, we are now at a time when corruption issues are hardly being talked about. We lived through some very bad years that coincided with scandals such as the Gürtel, the ERE, and now I want to think that it is more controlled and that it was a vaccine. I think Spain has learned and now more anti-corruption controls are applied.Who would you invite to dinner to learn more? You're going to be surprised, but Pedro Sánchez. I have interviewed him several times in the past, but now I would like to talk to him off camera to tell me all his changes of position, which for some are lies and for his environment are simply a test of maturity, because, they say, people change their minds, so I have been told by a person close to him. Who would you never sit at the table with? It is very difficult for me to tell you a name, because in the same way that I would interview everyone, I am able to hold a conversation at a table with practically all political profiles. A while ago, in the program, talking about the paparazzi, who have caught Terelu Campos arriving in Moncloa. I have blushed thinking that someone could have followed me in the last hours and I did not want much to see anyone, because I have been somewhat indisposed. Few things, I'm very binge-eating. I usually have a bomb-proof appetite. I am not gluttonous, but I never stop eating.What is never missing from your table? The oil... I usually take great care of food. Do you ever binge on something? No, I have that pretty much under control. There was a time when I would take the tub of ice cream, like in the movies, and drown some grief, but not anymore. Why do you lack salt shaker? Are you one of those of clear things and thick chocolate? I tend to have things very clear, but I also tell you that, with almost five hours of live information every day over the last 18 years, I have learned to measure my words. Yes, a lot. I tend to be quite confident, although less and less.What would you put spicy on? I really like spicy and I associate it with margarita, for example, and certain joys on Fridays, when I relax with friends. I put it to a meeting with friends.What has you fried these days? A move, which makes my life andI was in boxes and half the time I don't remember which one exactly.Why would you toast right now and in which restaurant? In one of the Costa Brava facing the sea with a good plate of black rice, and I would do it for some political stability, for a stable government without ties, without blackmail ... also for a government pact between the two big parties, not for an investiture, which I see as complicated, but to solve the great problems of politics, the economy, education ... With wine or cava? Well, there's a time for everything. I like cava a lot in the aperitif and wine, in the food.