Antonia San Juan: "He stole on the day to eat and had all his clothes full of items"

The actress is in the skin of Mari's mother, her new

at the Teatro Pavón.

This year she shoots three films and premieres another two.

Who said that after 50 there are no more roles for women?

What is your new show about? A television network has discovered that the public no longer admires the famous, but what they want is to be famous.

So, they invite an anonymous person, who goes with the idea of ​​promoting their work.

But she doesn't know that this is the excuse to bring out things that she is not going to like and demonize her life. The protagonist is a defender of the patriarchy, but you are making a parody.

Totally, it is a satire, very valleinclanesca.

I am a chronicler because to put this show on its feet I have to see what is around me.

I don't only watch documentaries on La 2. Have you had to suffer a lot of machismo? No, I am independent in everything.

Machismo is not your turn to suffer individually, but the whole world suffers.

And also age.

When you have a birthday they separate you and more in this profession.

Not to men.

For men, gray hair is attractive.

And the belly is sexy.

At 40 we are old and, if we have surgery, we are old women who have had surgery.

Sometimes you receive criticism from the women themselves.

On Instagram, they write to me: "What have you done to your face? You look horrible! You are old."

And, when you open the message and see that it is a woman, it is unfortunate.

Precisely, Madonna complained after her appearance at the Grammys that she was trapped by age discrimination and misogyny.

I think it's very good that Madonna said that, but I also tell you that she has gone totally in favor of the patriarchy by wanting to appear to be forever young.

She is also a victim of the same.

Women do not have to be birds of paradise, but rather trust in our intelligence and training.

I am a 62 year old woman...

And you don't have to pretend 20. No, you don't have to pretend nothing.

Why won't they love you for being who you are?

All that eagerness to appear is done to please men.

Do you think, then, that Madonna has fallen a bit into that trap of the patriarchy? A bit?

She has fallen on her face.

Come on, in the video that she makes with Maluma, the lady comes out singing reggaeton and perreando.

She has been the pop star.

Madonna neither suits me nor comes to me, but observing reality, that she complains about it when she is promoting it... Do you consider yourself a feminist woman? And there are things that I am in favor of and others I am not .

I don't understand the dogmas.

I don't understand the Our Father.

You know what I mean?

For me, authentic feminism is very simple: don't allow anyone to keep you, especially a man.

The moment you earn your bread,

some freedom you get.

What do you think of all this division that there has been now in feminism due to the Trans Law? I don't know.

I'm not interested.

It is a political problem that has nothing to do with a law.

You also talk about the socially accepted mistreatment in some media.

Of course, what happens is that it is already well established and people don't see it that way.

There is a naiveté in that sense.

Would you remove any TV program? No, I don't remove anything.

I observe reality.

I'm not narcissistic enough to believe that I can save the world.

It seems terrible to me to want to delete a program.

And they let you observe despite the fame you have? Fame reminds me of it.

I don't live like a celebrity.

It seems abnormal to tell you that I lead a normal life.

It's that I put the washing machine, clean my house, walk my dog, study, read, watch series,

When you played the role of Estela Reynolds in 'La que se avecina' you were very popular. Yes, and even now because they repeat and repeat the episodes.

I don't mind when they approach politely.

When I don't like it is when I go down the street and they start shouting: "Estela!".

Do they remind you of the character's phrases? Yes, and I have also suffered three attacks.

One day I was in front of the Círculo de Bellas Artes and two boys called me a drunk and other things.

Another day a young man pushed me and, on another occasion, I was going down Barquillo street and two boys started calling me a "whore" and throwing cans at me, and if they hit me, they would kill me.

The influencer Chiara Ferragni has made a dress with the hate speech that she has received on social networks.

What would she put in yours? Well,

what need is there?

I would never wear a dress with hate phrases on it.

Why am I going to give importance to who hates me?

When someone hates me or says something stupid to me, I block them.

I would wear a dress that said pretty things.

Of hate?

What a desire to cover yourself with shit. Four decades on the tables.

Doing theater is making adjustments with life?

It is to observe and be a chronicler of reality.

You came to Madrid very young.

How has the city changed? When I came here in the 80s, Madrid was not the height of modernity.

I came from the Canary Islands, a land where my schoolmates were Indian, French, English, German and African.

And I remember coming here and a black guy walking into a room and people like he was looking at... I didn't get it.

Madrid was a town that smelled of olive oil.

The most beautiful thing about the city when I arrived was that the windows were open and the voice of Ana Belén came out curing a small-town Madrid. And now how do you see it? Well, I live in the center of Madrid and I see everything: things that I like and others that I dislike very, very terrible.

What do you dislike the most? I can't say.

But I'm still in love with Madrid like no other city.

I love my land very much and I have a house on my land and I want to return in ten years, not very old.

If I get too old, I wouldn't enjoy it anymore because I'd go to die there.

I would like to go away at 70 to enjoy it, but not to die like elephants. What has Madrid given you? Public.

But as for the institutions, they have given me nothing.

I have been in Madrid for 40 years and I have never been caught in the theater network.

I've offered them lots of projects.

In that sense, Madrid has been quite stingy with me, but that doesn't mean that I don't like the city.

But it has not been my land, where they have given me a lot, in addition to the public.

You have commented that your beginnings were hard and that you had to steal to eat. Yes. And where did you steal? In the day.

I had nothing and I didn't want to go back.

And it cost me two pneumonias because I didn't eat.

But I didn't want to leave and I had no choice but to steal.

When the cashier said thank you, I had all my clothes full of items.

Although you already see in the early 80s what Dia was like.

Very seedy, right? Yes.

I collected 16 pesetas and bought a loaf of bread and with that loaf, I left loaded with things.

I hope those of the Day don't get upset now and ask me to account. Have you ever gone blank on stage? Lots of times, of course.

And how do you get out of there? Well, as if your house were on fire, with a cool head and calling the fire brigade.

When I'm alone and breaking the fourth wall, the trick is to address the public.

And then I've always gotten into a shirt with eleven rods with very complicated texts, authentic tongue twisters to demonstrate more, such as starting a show by learning the menu of El Bulli with his 50 dishes.

I've done a lot of triple somersault.

What has been the most traumatic experience of your life? I know everything that has happened to me, but I don't dwell on the pain.

I don't feel like telling how bad I've had.

I talked about it in the psychoanalyst and there it stayed. You already have everything overcome.

Almost all because I don't like extremes.

Like those people who tell you: "You can handle everything".

Well, I can with anything.

Don't burden me with so much. Who has made you shed more tears? A lot of situations.

Animal abuse makes me shed tears almost daily, when I see a dog dying because someone has burned its ears or when I see a bull cornered by 200 people in a town.

I cry before human evil.

It's a rare day that I don't.

I am very sensitive and have very fine skin.

Therefore, I no longer allow anyone to hurt me.

And how do you get it? Not allowing it.

If I see that you hurt me, I simply get up and leave. Has it been difficult for you to accept yourself as you are?

If I'm charming... If I were a bad girl, it would be hard for me, but I'm a very good friend of mine.

I get along very well with myself. The truth is that you never stop having new projects.

Yes, I don't stop because I haven't let them stop me.

But I would already have an expiration date for a long time.

At my age I would have been kicked in the ass.

But you haven't let them.

No. I have my production company, I write and I have directed seven shorts and two features.

I have written more than seven feature films, which I find difficult to put on my feet.

It is what we talked about before the patriarchy.

And that I was nominated for a Goya with the first short and they took me out in the Times.

But I'm doing very well because this year I premiere two films.

You are breaking the cliché that, after a certain age, they don't give you papers.

Little by little, the new generations appear, which are wonderful.

Young people are the ones who bet more on older people while the totems bet on young people.

This year I shoot three films with very diverse and very beautiful roles.

I also tell you what a blessed typecasting!

I would have liked to be pigeonholed because that means you have a job.

If they had called me to make substitutes for Estela, well, she would have done it.

But they didn't pigeonhole me.

I also tell you what a blessed typecasting!

I would have liked to be pigeonholed because that means you have a job.

If they had called me to make substitutes for Estela, well, she would have done it.

But they didn't pigeonhole me.

I also tell you what a blessed typecasting!

I would have liked to be pigeonholed because that means you have a job.

If they had called me to make substitutes for Estela, well, she would have done it.

But they didn't pigeonhole me.

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