• The ASSE and the Girondins offer us almost a “match of fear” at the end of the summer, this Saturday (9 pm) in Saint-Etienne.

  • Always in search of their first success of the season, Stéphanois and Bordelais worry their supporters on many points, from the environment around the club to the supposed leaders in each squad.

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    interviewed four enthusiasts of these monuments of French football, ready to estimate which of the Greens or the Girondins were most likely to be in the same place in eight months.

OK, this is only the 6th day of Ligue 1. But in view of the two previous seasons of the two clubs, concluded in the second part of the table after having flirted with the red zone, the current 19th and 20th places of the ASSE and the Girondins de Bordeaux are not the result of chance. “Obviously it stings to see this ranking,” admitted the midfielder of the Greens Yvan Neyou on Thursday. Before what could almost be likened to the fastest “fear match” in history in an L1 calendar, this Saturday (9 pm) at Geoffroy-Guichard, it was not very difficult to find pessimistic supporters on both camps. Two Stéphanois and two Bordelais lend themselves to the game of "which historic club in our championship goes straight to Ligue 2?" ". All with four defined themes,and creaky, foolproof humor that doesn't hurt.

Do you prefer to have Lopez or the Romeyer-Caïazzo duo at the head of your project?

"Ooh, we have the choice between the plague or cholera there", spontaneously ironic the supporter of the Verts Baptiste (42 years old) and the Bordelais Matthieu (35 years old).

"Our project is not viable and the disengagement of the two presidents puts the club in a drowsy state, seen as the sale goes on forever and even remains blocked," continues Baptiste.

The Gérard Lopez model may have been successful in Lille, I find it extremely risky economically.

I don't want my club to be in jeopardy financially so come to think of it, I still prefer our situation.

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Also from Saint-Etienne, Sylvain (38) does not envy the recent Bordeaux turn: "Gérard Lopez is in my opinion someone bad for football, and after the King Street fiasco, I am afraid that the Girondins have recovered worse. When we see the state of Losc's finances after Lopez's departure, I really don't wish them the same, even if Lille won a title behind. I much prefer Claude Puel's project to 

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involving affiliate clubs, because these arrangements never smell very good ”.

For his part, Sébastien (23 years old), passionate about the Girondins, opts for the former Lille boss: "He nevertheless knew how to show his talent to find players and create a great team with Losc".

It remains to be seen whether Admar Lopes, the technical director of the Girondins, will achieve as many small miracles as Luis Campos in Lille in the recruitment.

Do you prefer as convicts Khazri-Hamouma or Costil-Koscielny?

It is an understatement to say that the presence of two ex-international tricolors in the 11 Bordeaux does not dream our Stéphanois supporter Baptiste. "I have the impression that in Bordeaux, the expected leaders Costil and Koscielny are completely burnt out," he smiles. We don't wish any harm to friends but when I see their workforce being made of odds and ends, I think they are even more in trouble than us. At home, as much Hamouma was mysteriously extended to fill gaps in the workforce, it is hard to criticize Khazri, who saved us at the end of last season. And then all is well, we are also betting on a former striker from Liverpool [Ignacio Ramirez], good that of Montevideo [Uruguay] on the other hand… ”

In the opposite camp, Matthieu agrees on this theme: “At first glance, Costil will get us 163 decisive saves in the season, but Khazri will fall 348 times in the opponent's area and get ten penalties. .

Advantage to the Greens therefore!

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Who should be the most patient supporters in a tough season?

"The context is explosive for the two clubs, with contested directions and calamitous seasons for two or three years unfortunately," said Stéphanois Sylvain. Isn't there all the same a real nuance as the 1987 Ultramarines played a role in the resumption of the Girondins by Gérard Lopez? “We have entered a new project, and a large majority of supporters are behind it, summarizes Sébastien. This is only the beginning and we will perhaps be more forgiving and patient than our Saint-Etienne counterparts. "

“The honeymoon between Lopez and the supporters could quickly turn sour if the results did not come, nuance Matthew.

We have seen in the past that things are booming at Matmut Atlantique.

While in Saint-Etienne, the protest seems more resigned.

The green people have indeed been jaded for long months, and not only because of this season without a presence at the stadium because of the Covid-19.

"We have the impression of being taken for six months on the sale of the club and it could harden strongly in the stands in the event of further poor results," predicts Baptiste.

Do you think the weight of history and identity can save your club?

We concede it, we are here in the intangible, even mystical.

Concretely, can the 16 cumulative French championship titles come to the aid of ASSE and Girondins if they are completely back to the wall this season (again)?

To one more than the other depending on the management of this heavy sporting heritage?

"If the maintenance is played on the name, Bordeaux necessarily has the advantage, slice Matthieu, while objectivity.

But since it is played with the 11 puppets on the ground… ”

Baptiste does not share this opinion: “In the most difficult period last season, ASSE was able to unite, have a burst of pride and even an extra soul as in Nîmes (0-2).

When we see Etienne Green who stops a penalty for his first professional match, we are in the irrational.

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This “team-supporter fusion”, then seen in the Forez, is it really a guarantee of security in a race to maintain?

Sylvain is categorical: “The name of the Girondins will not save them: if they have to go down on the field, no one will give them a gift.

Ditto for Sainté: a club like Clermont will not hesitate to push us down if it can while relations are rather good between us.

“And the neighbor and promoted Clermont is already 5 and 6 points ahead of our two monuments in galley.

Almost a small break in view of the dynamics of the two clubs (no success so far) and the ASSE calendar (Monaco, Nice and OL between September 22 and October 3).

Admit it, even the end of summer smells like a “fear match”, right?

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