Carla Antonelli: "I felt expelled from the PSOE by Carmen Calvo's transphobia, I had to leave for dignity and shame"

• 28-M More Madrid corners the PSOE with its political conflicts: from the Trans Law to the Saharawi house
• Politics The former deputy of the PSOE Carla Antonelli signs for More Madrid after her departure due to the discrepancies with the Trans Law

Why have you joined Más Madrid? Because it is a green party, committed to rights, social, feminist and that includes in its statutes the commitment to the rights of trans people and the LGTBI collective. I feel orphaned with the PSOE since the night of June 9, 2020, when Carmen Calvo with night and treachery, on the anniversary of the death of Pedro Zerolo and in full confinement, as there was going to be no demonstration of Pride, took out an absolutely tricky argument that introduced a transphobic virus within the party. And they tried to make a triumvirate that if you were against surrogacy and prostitution, you had to be against trans laws, an argument that could be from the extreme right. There have been absolutely strange, perverse and diabolical alliances that made the transphobia that did not exist flourish within the party. Although most were not in it. I will always say that this was a spurious war of power for waving the violet flag of feminism because before December 19, when the new government is formed, there is not a single statement from her or Ángeles Álvarez that shows that they were against the self-determination that we took to Congress in 2017, which was even more advanced than the Trans Law. It turns out that the law erases women and affects the legal security of 47 million Spaniards overnight. Why didn't he delete them before? You don't have to be very smart to know that there has always been a proxy war behind it that is blowing up trans people. We have been a subject until the Fourth Millennium. There is a ruthless interference in the lives of trans people.Have you felt expelled from the PSOE by Carmen Calvo? I have felt expelled by his transphobia. Out of shame and dignity I had to get out. I could only stay a sellout or an unscrupulous person. Let's imagine that tomorrow a party makes a racist argument, can you imagine that there is a black deputy who does not raise his voice? I already faced my own Government and Zapatero in 2006 for the Gender Identity Law, no one can ever tell me in life that I have betrayed my collective. JAVI MARTÍNEZWhat did he endure in that case two more years after that night in June 2020? To push with all my strength from my seat for the iron defense of the Trans Law, to stand up directly to Carmen Calvo. I endured only to fight the rottenness of these people. What a coincidence that in 2021, two days before Pride, the draft law was approved and in 2022, again a few days before, it is registered as a project. I do not make that reading, I say that the street is so powerful that there is no government that can withstand a million people demonstrating against its policies. I do not want to say that the Government uses the collective, but the transphobic argument came out when they knew that there was going to be Pride.With that situation that relates, why did he leave the PSOE when the law had not yet been approved? Because a black hole opened, Carmen Calvo appears on the cover of EL MUNDO and Patxi López says that you have to have a meeting to iron out differences. What are the differences? If everything was already solved. That's when I find out that it's going to try to lengthenR the deadline for amendments sine die to take it to the following year and that in case of electoral advance it remains in the drawer of oblivion. In my name that was not going to happen and I gave the last thing I had left, my militancy. I made a hunger strike to Zapatero and your newspaper, with Pedro J. Ramírez, supported me to death. It escapes me that he has now become the black beast of trans rights. Not everything goes to get a headline. You are a trans person and you are expressing yourself freely in the pages of this newspaper. As I can express myself freely and as is my custom, I am not going to keep quiet because otherwise I could not sleep tonight. So, how do you see a campaign against the trans collective? In political interests to which the right, the extreme right and a sector with interests far removed from the ideological ones of the left have joined. This issue is in the public domain at the media and national level. When journalism picks up a topic, it doesn't let go until it gets boring. Can you imagine Ayuso making the jokes of the enriquetas painting their faces with bitumen? I will not be so daring to make comparative grievances, but we only need to mark ourselves with a Star of David on our foreheads, in this case with a pink triangle, as in the Nazi concentration camps. The harm to children is immeasurable.Is that a matter of the means? I point to a part of the media that elevates the singularity to globality to those that The Lancet magazine made look absolutely ridiculous. All the studies that speak of repentants do not reach 1%. What I am asking for is impartiality, but I am not accusing the media. JAVI MARTÍNEZHay medical experts who warn of "a danger" of identity for young people by putting the age at 14 years. We talk about a registry sex change, that people stay in the headline and think we are talking about a surgical operation. The Constitutional Court already ruled in 2019 that minors have the right to change their name and registered sex. I am surprised that those who considered our struggle a whim now go as saviors. Please get out of our lives, stop hypocritically worrying about our health when you didn't care if we self-medicate. Let's compare a demonstration of 700,000 people with a sad one that went up Atocha Street. One was an inclusive feminism surrounded by hundreds of thousands of people and the other two saying that trans women erase them. That's feminism divided. There were also historical leaders of Spanish feminism. There's nothing like creating a problem that doesn't exist and then leading it and living off it. Ángeles Álvarez would have disappeared from the media information map without this.Does the future of the left happen to converge in Sumar? Yes, it is my total conviction.Do you understand the position of Podemos? I will always thank Irene Montero, but I do not understand the damage that has already been done with Sumar. Then I tell you that in December everyone will go together, but these public battles are harmful.Do you share the new vision of the PSOE on the Sahara and Morocco? I will always be with a free Sahara, I do not understand the change of position of the President of the Government.How do you value the reform of the Law of Only Yes is Yes promoted by the PSOE together with the PP? It is bad news that the PSOE and the PP have joined hands to reform this law for two obvious reasons: the lack of consensus among the majority that It made it possible for it to go ahead and because they displace consent from the very heart of the law. Above all, I repeat, with a party like the PP that has never believed in women's rights and equality.

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