"Sweden received the terrorists with open arms. And when they can't hand over these terrorists, of course we can't have a positive attitude towards Sweden." That's how it sounded on Friday at the same time as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced that the country is ready to approve Finland's NATO application.
Tobias Billström says that this was not what Sweden had hoped for.
"This separation is a Turkist decision and nothing that the Swedish or Finnish governments have wanted or wanted.
He also believes that Sweden has had a longer way to go than Finland.
"This is because we have more people connected to the PKK in Sweden than Finland has.
Convinced of membership – no plan B
Despite Erdogan's statement, Billström says that he is convinced that Sweden's NATO application will be approved for the NATO summit in Vilnius in July this year.
"We have all sorts of goodwill from countries and from NATO member states that want us to become members and that see the value of this, so I'm in no way worried about this.
If Sweden were to remain in NATO's waiting room without security guarantees, Billström believes that we do not need to be particularly worried.
"It is the case that our security situation is much better today than before we became NATO members.
If Sweden were to remain outside NATO for a longer period, there is no other alternative, according to Billström.
"I think it would have been very unfortunate if we talked about a plan B at all because it would undermine the whole idea of why we wanted to become members of NATO in the first place.